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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 513497" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>Hi there and congratulations on getting such good evaluations and plans for him. Sounds like you are a very in tune and understanding parent. It is interesting, many of us here say that ODD typically just describes the resulting behavior due to an underlying issue or issues and it sounds like you are stating the exact same thing. You say he has nice writing so maybe it is not a motor issue but that really needs to be evaluated by an Occupational Therapist (OT) (Occupational therapist) because if it takes him longer and different ways to make the letters he could have motor planning problems or visual planning problems. I would do this kind of evaluation as one part of my investigation (if you haven't already of course)</p><p></p><p>What seems even more likely to me is that he has an issue with formulating the language for writing. The task of thinking of what we want to say then formulating it into writing then getting it on the paper....takes a few trips to different areas of the brain and along the way the brain wiring can be a little challenged. These kinds of conditions are really common co-morbid conditions with ADHD and I suspect that there are a couple of parents here who will come along (if not on the weekend...make sure you make a comment on this thread to pull it up to the front for people who are here more during the week...there are some amazing moms here who have struggled with these issues with their kids)...</p><p></p><p>So, again if it was me, I would have an assessment for Learning Disability (LD) done (a writing disability) and just to make sure, an Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) (speech language pathology) evaluation done to make sure formulation of language is not a concern. (and I already mentioned the Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation because these folks really see this stuff a LOT).</p><p></p><p>My son also has a terrible time writing more than a few words and sentences without a lot of prompting. For non-writing classes (where the focus is not on learning how to do handwriting) he uses a scribe...an adult writes what he says. If your son can tolerate the training and the frustration when a computer gets it wrong....using a voice to text program could help. Microsoft has it built in to most computers and dragon naturally speaking is really nice and not super expensive. The goal of writing is on the expression and getting ideas out and if there is a true interference due to a learning disability of some sort, then finding a way to help them express themselves can be a huge breakthrough and can lower frustration. You suggest (wont know for sure until an evaluation though) that he has the mechanics of writing down, so as he gets better at the formulation of his sentences and paragraphs through adapted means.... when he gets older, you can then work on his actually writing/typing himself...if he develops a hate and frustration he may not be willing to work on it later, just MHO to build success in any way right now. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I dont know your situation (if you are from the USA or if you are in the USA from time to time??) if you have an issue with finding places for an evaluation maybe you could coordinate with a time you are there. Do you maintain a permanent address in the USA? If so, then you can arrange for a free evaluation through the public school system. That means you would have to be around for a while (and you might be able to explain things to the department and maybe they would work with you on that) so they could help identify issues for you at no cost. With yoru traveling (is it a military situation?) setting up therapy is not likely a choice but at least they could give recommendations. If it is a military situation, there are parents here who can help you because they have gone through special needs issues with their kids. Overall if there is some way to do private testing and connect with therapy where you are most of the time that would be ideal. But I realize not every lifestyle works for that kind of situation. Some kind of consulting situation to give you ideas (once you have a diagnosis there would likely be online groups too to help give ideas)....</p><p></p><p>Well, just rambling, I know the frustration and how I can lose my patience when he is losing his with me....and I tend to be ineffective. We do much better when I can reduce frustration the ways I have explained to you.....by cutting down on the amount of actual writing he has to do, allowing his ideas to get onto paper through scribing (my writing it or an adult at school) and helping him to create the drafts. In the end, when a draft is made, he often copies it but that is less frustrating for him because the formulation and editing parts are completed. He then gets the handwriting practice. </p><p></p><p>Dont know if that would work for you, but it is a start. Nice to meet you, glad you found us!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 513497, member: 12886"] Hi there and congratulations on getting such good evaluations and plans for him. Sounds like you are a very in tune and understanding parent. It is interesting, many of us here say that ODD typically just describes the resulting behavior due to an underlying issue or issues and it sounds like you are stating the exact same thing. You say he has nice writing so maybe it is not a motor issue but that really needs to be evaluated by an Occupational Therapist (OT) (Occupational therapist) because if it takes him longer and different ways to make the letters he could have motor planning problems or visual planning problems. I would do this kind of evaluation as one part of my investigation (if you haven't already of course) What seems even more likely to me is that he has an issue with formulating the language for writing. The task of thinking of what we want to say then formulating it into writing then getting it on the paper....takes a few trips to different areas of the brain and along the way the brain wiring can be a little challenged. These kinds of conditions are really common co-morbid conditions with ADHD and I suspect that there are a couple of parents here who will come along (if not on the weekend...make sure you make a comment on this thread to pull it up to the front for people who are here more during the week...there are some amazing moms here who have struggled with these issues with their kids)... So, again if it was me, I would have an assessment for Learning Disability (LD) done (a writing disability) and just to make sure, an Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) (speech language pathology) evaluation done to make sure formulation of language is not a concern. (and I already mentioned the Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation because these folks really see this stuff a LOT). My son also has a terrible time writing more than a few words and sentences without a lot of prompting. For non-writing classes (where the focus is not on learning how to do handwriting) he uses a scribe...an adult writes what he says. If your son can tolerate the training and the frustration when a computer gets it wrong....using a voice to text program could help. Microsoft has it built in to most computers and dragon naturally speaking is really nice and not super expensive. The goal of writing is on the expression and getting ideas out and if there is a true interference due to a learning disability of some sort, then finding a way to help them express themselves can be a huge breakthrough and can lower frustration. You suggest (wont know for sure until an evaluation though) that he has the mechanics of writing down, so as he gets better at the formulation of his sentences and paragraphs through adapted means.... when he gets older, you can then work on his actually writing/typing himself...if he develops a hate and frustration he may not be willing to work on it later, just MHO to build success in any way right now. I dont know your situation (if you are from the USA or if you are in the USA from time to time??) if you have an issue with finding places for an evaluation maybe you could coordinate with a time you are there. Do you maintain a permanent address in the USA? If so, then you can arrange for a free evaluation through the public school system. That means you would have to be around for a while (and you might be able to explain things to the department and maybe they would work with you on that) so they could help identify issues for you at no cost. With yoru traveling (is it a military situation?) setting up therapy is not likely a choice but at least they could give recommendations. If it is a military situation, there are parents here who can help you because they have gone through special needs issues with their kids. Overall if there is some way to do private testing and connect with therapy where you are most of the time that would be ideal. But I realize not every lifestyle works for that kind of situation. Some kind of consulting situation to give you ideas (once you have a diagnosis there would likely be online groups too to help give ideas).... Well, just rambling, I know the frustration and how I can lose my patience when he is losing his with me....and I tend to be ineffective. We do much better when I can reduce frustration the ways I have explained to you.....by cutting down on the amount of actual writing he has to do, allowing his ideas to get onto paper through scribing (my writing it or an adult at school) and helping him to create the drafts. In the end, when a draft is made, he often copies it but that is less frustrating for him because the formulation and editing parts are completed. He then gets the handwriting practice. Dont know if that would work for you, but it is a start. Nice to meet you, glad you found us! [/QUOTE]
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