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<blockquote data-quote="soapbox" data-source="post: 493563" data-attributes="member: 13003"><p>Hmmm...</p><p></p><p>Kid starts school. World falls apart. Sounds... familiar!</p><p></p><p>Lets see... </p><p>ADHD plus ODD.</p><p>ADHD - might be accurate, or might be "way" off.</p><p>ODD - is possibly an accurate description of behavior, but... doesn't tell you anything else, except that maybe there is something more going on.</p><p></p><p>For now, lets start with ADHD, and the complexities that can be associated with it.</p><p></p><p>1) 50% of kids with ADHD, also have Developmental Coordination Disorder (DCD) - developmental coordination disorder. If they have gross motor skills, they are called "clumsy" and are bullied a LOT. If they have fine motor skills, every single school task in those early years is next to impossible. And if you can't keep up in school... you get either excluded, or bullied, and really, exclusion is just a "nicer" form of bullying. And... many kids are affected in both gross and fine motor skills. You will probably have a difficult time getting a diagnosis of Developmental Coordination Disorder (DCD) (or any of its other names... like developmental dyspraxia). But... a thorough Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation for motor skills WILL highlight deficits - and can provide documentation for school accommodations, and can provide interventions that help. There are NO medications for Developmental Coordination Disorder (DCD).</p><p></p><p>2) Learning disabilities are frequently co-morbid with ADHD. I don't have direct stats, but there's lots of them - dyslexia, dysgraphia, dyscalcula, dysnomia, etc.</p><p></p><p>3) 70% of kids with ADHD and one or more LDs, also have Auditory Processing Disorders (APD) - auditory processing disorder. Classical Central Auditory Processing Disorder (CAPD) is where there is a significant difference between comprehension of written language and comprehension of spoken language, with spoken being much weaker. However, there are others... including the often-missed problem with "auditory figure ground" - comprehension is fine, kid does much better one-on-one, but... he just isn't getting what the teacher is saying in a classroom setting... because of the background noise. People with this problem have significant difficulties focusing on the "important" sounds and making sense of them - their filters are faulty, rather than their hearing... AND... while APDs are frequently co-morbid with ADHD, they can also <em>look like ADHD even when it isn't present</em>. The kid isn't paying attention... obviously, that's ADHD, right? Not necessarily.</p><p></p><p>Oh yes. Me and my soapbox. This got long on me again.</p><p>As you can tell from my sig... we were burnt by these.</p><p>Something to think about, maybe?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soapbox, post: 493563, member: 13003"] Hmmm... Kid starts school. World falls apart. Sounds... familiar! Lets see... ADHD plus ODD. ADHD - might be accurate, or might be "way" off. ODD - is possibly an accurate description of behavior, but... doesn't tell you anything else, except that maybe there is something more going on. For now, lets start with ADHD, and the complexities that can be associated with it. 1) 50% of kids with ADHD, also have Developmental Coordination Disorder (DCD) - developmental coordination disorder. If they have gross motor skills, they are called "clumsy" and are bullied a LOT. If they have fine motor skills, every single school task in those early years is next to impossible. And if you can't keep up in school... you get either excluded, or bullied, and really, exclusion is just a "nicer" form of bullying. And... many kids are affected in both gross and fine motor skills. You will probably have a difficult time getting a diagnosis of Developmental Coordination Disorder (DCD) (or any of its other names... like developmental dyspraxia). But... a thorough Occupational Therapist (OT) evaluation for motor skills WILL highlight deficits - and can provide documentation for school accommodations, and can provide interventions that help. There are NO medications for Developmental Coordination Disorder (DCD). 2) Learning disabilities are frequently co-morbid with ADHD. I don't have direct stats, but there's lots of them - dyslexia, dysgraphia, dyscalcula, dysnomia, etc. 3) 70% of kids with ADHD and one or more LDs, also have Auditory Processing Disorders (APD) - auditory processing disorder. Classical Central Auditory Processing Disorder (CAPD) is where there is a significant difference between comprehension of written language and comprehension of spoken language, with spoken being much weaker. However, there are others... including the often-missed problem with "auditory figure ground" - comprehension is fine, kid does much better one-on-one, but... he just isn't getting what the teacher is saying in a classroom setting... because of the background noise. People with this problem have significant difficulties focusing on the "important" sounds and making sense of them - their filters are faulty, rather than their hearing... AND... while APDs are frequently co-morbid with ADHD, they can also [I]look like ADHD even when it isn't present[/I]. The kid isn't paying attention... obviously, that's ADHD, right? Not necessarily. Oh yes. Me and my soapbox. This got long on me again. As you can tell from my sig... we were burnt by these. Something to think about, maybe? [/QUOTE]
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