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<blockquote data-quote="coalminer1235" data-source="post: 100917" data-attributes="member: 4339"><p>My interactions with the "justice" system where we live (northern Utah) have convinced me that they do not exist for the benefit of the child, they exist to preserve and extend their own welfare. Our Utah system is designed to prevent you from taking any serious action that would help control or limit your childs behavior while at the same time tying you to the child as legally liable for anything that results from that childs behavior. Given an opportunity to introduce that child into the justice system they will gladly do so, happily connecting that child with other kids who have the same or worse problems and attitudes and cheerfully billing *you* for it all. I am not naive enough to think that there are not some situations in which Child Protective Services are a godsend, but I do believe that in the majority of cases the structure of the system actually prevents the child from being helped. </p><p></p><p>Before I met my wife when she was a single mom they removed one of her sons from the home, billed her for foster care and sent the child to a home with alcohol accessible and he returned with a "battery tattoo". You have to wonder how many times that is repeated and even if the intentions are good, the underlying motive in this (and most all) government bureaucracies is self-preservation.</p><p></p><p>Personally I am unable to make clear black and white decisions when I see a kid acting up in a store or even when I hear a child abuse story on the news. While 99.99999...% of me is horrified and outraged when one of these stories appears, that last 0.000...0% wonders what that kid did. On all sides of these issues are humans, imperfect creatures just like me struggling on all levels to deal with life in a society defined by constantly being barraged with advertisements telling us we need more stuff to be happy. We are set up for failure by our culture and society and the "system" that is supposed to "protect and serve" is using liability and CYA paperwork as an excuse to protect and serve its own interests. All done with the best of intentions, of course.</p><p></p><p>Not that I'm bitter in any way...</p><p></p><p>griznog</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="coalminer1235, post: 100917, member: 4339"] My interactions with the "justice" system where we live (northern Utah) have convinced me that they do not exist for the benefit of the child, they exist to preserve and extend their own welfare. Our Utah system is designed to prevent you from taking any serious action that would help control or limit your childs behavior while at the same time tying you to the child as legally liable for anything that results from that childs behavior. Given an opportunity to introduce that child into the justice system they will gladly do so, happily connecting that child with other kids who have the same or worse problems and attitudes and cheerfully billing *you* for it all. I am not naive enough to think that there are not some situations in which Child Protective Services are a godsend, but I do believe that in the majority of cases the structure of the system actually prevents the child from being helped. Before I met my wife when she was a single mom they removed one of her sons from the home, billed her for foster care and sent the child to a home with alcohol accessible and he returned with a "battery tattoo". You have to wonder how many times that is repeated and even if the intentions are good, the underlying motive in this (and most all) government bureaucracies is self-preservation. Personally I am unable to make clear black and white decisions when I see a kid acting up in a store or even when I hear a child abuse story on the news. While 99.99999...% of me is horrified and outraged when one of these stories appears, that last 0.000...0% wonders what that kid did. On all sides of these issues are humans, imperfect creatures just like me struggling on all levels to deal with life in a society defined by constantly being barraged with advertisements telling us we need more stuff to be happy. We are set up for failure by our culture and society and the "system" that is supposed to "protect and serve" is using liability and CYA paperwork as an excuse to protect and serve its own interests. All done with the best of intentions, of course. Not that I'm bitter in any way... griznog [/QUOTE]
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