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<blockquote data-quote="Mattsmom277" data-source="post: 373294" data-attributes="member: 4264"><p>I think your boss will need to speak to this woman in depth to decide if she truly is just a innocent in all this with a ton on her plate, or if she exploited a situation.</p><p>However, if over the course of a year, more money was in my account every pay period, I'd for sure figure DOH its my pay being higher than it should be. Even if she </p><p>shared with her daughter, won't your boss be thinking : hmmm, so you and daughter share account. your pay and daughters pay go in, and you both just take what you want, when </p><p>you want without seeing who spends what, on what, and ensuring its only ones own pay being spent by each? I mean come on now. She may be in dire straights but something is not</p><p>right here. If you were living out of a car in a situation like that, you wouldn't be willy nilly with a joint account, when you'd need every penny for survival. I am certain your boss will </p><p>see right through that. It is bogus, pure and simple. Perhaps she's a very nice person who got in too deep and really wants to make it right. But thats between her and her boss.</p><p>As for your role. Here's what I think. You know you spoke to the bookkeeper, but in absence of email you are unsure if it was confirmed to bookkeeper, therefore you can't say for sure that you told them to change the salary rate. That is ALL I would say to my boss, along with a deep apology along the lines of: I've worked here for x amount of years and I continue to pride myself on being on the ball and not making mistakes like this. I'm very sorry for the problems this mistake has caused and just want to assure you that I will be double checking that everything in the future is confirmed in writing to avoid another mishap such as this. </p><p>And then I'd let my boss talk. I would NOT suggest for a second paying the $750. Companies write this off. Employees make mistakes. IF the boss hints, suggests or outright asks, I would very politely say something like "If that will help you feel that I have rectified this mistake to the best of my ability, I am perfectly fine with that". </p><p>If the boss even hints that you are responsable for the funds she recieved, not for one second would I settle for that. It is this employees responsability plain and simple. She should have (and likely was) aware that something wasn't right with her pay cheques. </p><p>Personally, I would fire this woman as the odds she truly wasnt' aware is not in her favor. Ok, so she says it was her pay and daughters going into account. Was daughter spending all that extra pay of hers that she didn't know she was getting? Because why would daughter htink its ok to spend that additional pay that belonged to the mother? She'd think she was stealing from her mother. The same mother who was couch hopping, basing life out of a car, starting to sound like a country song here!</p><p>I think she fell on hard times, and like someone else said, suddenly she was overpaid, needed it so kept it. Then it wasnt' fixed, needed it, kept it. Then it kept happening and she was scared. Now when she didn't file taxes, she knew she'd have to file soon meaning she was going to get caught. So she came forward all tearful at this "Sudden" realization that she was overpaid. </p><p>Unless your boss fell off a turnip truck yesterday, this story isn't going to jibe. Therefore, your mistake was that first paycheque going out at the higher amount. Every single penny beyond that was this employees responsability. Had she fixed it after the first pay, there would be no $750 worth of costs to correct paperwork. If I was your boss I wouldn't at all ask you for those costs. I would fire the employee and have them charged with theft, and also seek reinbursement along with the $750 plus any and all court costs.</p><p>I'm not heartless, I know people make mistakes especially in dire times in their lives. But this is a year long criminal venture and no part of me for a second believes her story. </p><p>I'm sorry about all of this stress you are having to cope with over this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mattsmom277, post: 373294, member: 4264"] I think your boss will need to speak to this woman in depth to decide if she truly is just a innocent in all this with a ton on her plate, or if she exploited a situation. However, if over the course of a year, more money was in my account every pay period, I'd for sure figure DOH its my pay being higher than it should be. Even if she shared with her daughter, won't your boss be thinking : hmmm, so you and daughter share account. your pay and daughters pay go in, and you both just take what you want, when you want without seeing who spends what, on what, and ensuring its only ones own pay being spent by each? I mean come on now. She may be in dire straights but something is not right here. If you were living out of a car in a situation like that, you wouldn't be willy nilly with a joint account, when you'd need every penny for survival. I am certain your boss will see right through that. It is bogus, pure and simple. Perhaps she's a very nice person who got in too deep and really wants to make it right. But thats between her and her boss. As for your role. Here's what I think. You know you spoke to the bookkeeper, but in absence of email you are unsure if it was confirmed to bookkeeper, therefore you can't say for sure that you told them to change the salary rate. That is ALL I would say to my boss, along with a deep apology along the lines of: I've worked here for x amount of years and I continue to pride myself on being on the ball and not making mistakes like this. I'm very sorry for the problems this mistake has caused and just want to assure you that I will be double checking that everything in the future is confirmed in writing to avoid another mishap such as this. And then I'd let my boss talk. I would NOT suggest for a second paying the $750. Companies write this off. Employees make mistakes. IF the boss hints, suggests or outright asks, I would very politely say something like "If that will help you feel that I have rectified this mistake to the best of my ability, I am perfectly fine with that". If the boss even hints that you are responsable for the funds she recieved, not for one second would I settle for that. It is this employees responsability plain and simple. She should have (and likely was) aware that something wasn't right with her pay cheques. Personally, I would fire this woman as the odds she truly wasnt' aware is not in her favor. Ok, so she says it was her pay and daughters going into account. Was daughter spending all that extra pay of hers that she didn't know she was getting? Because why would daughter htink its ok to spend that additional pay that belonged to the mother? She'd think she was stealing from her mother. The same mother who was couch hopping, basing life out of a car, starting to sound like a country song here! I think she fell on hard times, and like someone else said, suddenly she was overpaid, needed it so kept it. Then it wasnt' fixed, needed it, kept it. Then it kept happening and she was scared. Now when she didn't file taxes, she knew she'd have to file soon meaning she was going to get caught. So she came forward all tearful at this "Sudden" realization that she was overpaid. Unless your boss fell off a turnip truck yesterday, this story isn't going to jibe. Therefore, your mistake was that first paycheque going out at the higher amount. Every single penny beyond that was this employees responsability. Had she fixed it after the first pay, there would be no $750 worth of costs to correct paperwork. If I was your boss I wouldn't at all ask you for those costs. I would fire the employee and have them charged with theft, and also seek reinbursement along with the $750 plus any and all court costs. I'm not heartless, I know people make mistakes especially in dire times in their lives. But this is a year long criminal venture and no part of me for a second believes her story. I'm sorry about all of this stress you are having to cope with over this. [/QUOTE]
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