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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 372081" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>There are two ways of doing this. One way is to lock up the problem food but allow (and provide) unlimited supplies of permitted food. We used to have food such as cold sausages, fresh fruit & vegetables in the fridge and the kids were allowed to help themselves. If they spoiled their appetites on good food, it didn't matter because they'd at least eaten properly.</p><p></p><p>The other way is to stop bringing the wrong foods into the house in the first place. No cookies at all for anyone. No crisps. No sweets. No fruit juice or soft drink, only water, tea and coffee. And milk. But the problem here can then become the kids who steal money to buy junk food. </p><p></p><p>What medications is he on? We found risperdal was a huge problem for difficult child 1, it gave him the munchies, big time, and he doubled his weight in six months when he was about 15. medications can aggravate this sort of problem.</p><p></p><p>I would be asking a therapist for help with this one. It's important to understand why, even it if is partly medications or all the child's own internal drives.</p><p></p><p>Something else to consider (in terms of possible cause) - a friend who is a doctor has a similar problem with her daughter, that we had with easy child. The baby was born literally starving to death in utero, and in easy child's case had to be induced because we had a very good doctor who identified the problem. Once easy child was born, she was able to feed for herself and doubled her weight in six weeks! But it's similar to someone whose metabolism has slowed due to extreme dieting - when you stop the diet, even more weight goes back on so you end up worse off than before you dieted. In similar way, we had a baby who developed serious weight problems and now as an adult, is obese despite at times a very active lifestyle. She would steal food, hoard it and also binge. She would come home form school having spent every cent of pocket money she had, on junk food. She was a easy child so she had part-time work which paid her well, and she spent a lot of money she earned on more junk food. </p><p></p><p>My doctor friend's daughter has a similar history. Doctor looked it up and found there is a strong link between prenatal malnourishment and later weight problems/food issues.</p><p></p><p>With your son, he needs access to GOOD food. It's a boy thing, too - they can get ravenous and need food NOW. Especially as they head into puberty. It seems to be a growth hormone thing. I saw it with my own boys as well as friends' sons - the boy would suddenly say, "I'm hungry!" and it was like being held up by a ravening wold snarling at the fridge door. </p><p>I learned to have food available and to keep checking to make sure we didn't run out. Expensive foods had to be rationed or simply done without. But I would roast chicken, for example. Roast two instead of one. Keep leftovers cold in the fridge. Roast more vegetables (I always roast vegetables in a tray on their own, sometimes roast veggies without anything else in the oven) and taught the kids how to use the microwave oven so they could have a fresh roast dinner from fridge leftovers. But the hungry wolf teen male would often graze at the fridge door and eat cold roast chicken and cold roast vegetables, there just wasn't the time to heat it up. Had to eat immediately.</p><p></p><p>So either lock it all up or stop buying the treat foods, and replace treat foods with healthy options. For everyone. Frankly, it is easier to make the same rules for everyone. And if others whinge that they are being punished for someone else's lack of control? This isn't about blame, it's about doing everyone a favour and everyone eating more healthily for a while. After all, it is a gift to your family to give them only healthy food. And if you are all out somewhere and you want to have a treat - you can. Something we have done, is buy a four pack of ice creams form the supermarket freezer, when there are four of us out shopping together. The same treat bought singly would be twice the price. But the important thing is, when a treat is available, to ensure it is shared evenly, and eaten immediately. Then ensure no treat leftovers, because they will be scarfed down fast and secretly by someone determined to get to it first.</p><p></p><p>Go to the seat of the problem and work on that. Best results.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 372081, member: 1991"] There are two ways of doing this. One way is to lock up the problem food but allow (and provide) unlimited supplies of permitted food. We used to have food such as cold sausages, fresh fruit & vegetables in the fridge and the kids were allowed to help themselves. If they spoiled their appetites on good food, it didn't matter because they'd at least eaten properly. The other way is to stop bringing the wrong foods into the house in the first place. No cookies at all for anyone. No crisps. No sweets. No fruit juice or soft drink, only water, tea and coffee. And milk. But the problem here can then become the kids who steal money to buy junk food. What medications is he on? We found risperdal was a huge problem for difficult child 1, it gave him the munchies, big time, and he doubled his weight in six months when he was about 15. medications can aggravate this sort of problem. I would be asking a therapist for help with this one. It's important to understand why, even it if is partly medications or all the child's own internal drives. Something else to consider (in terms of possible cause) - a friend who is a doctor has a similar problem with her daughter, that we had with easy child. The baby was born literally starving to death in utero, and in easy child's case had to be induced because we had a very good doctor who identified the problem. Once easy child was born, she was able to feed for herself and doubled her weight in six weeks! But it's similar to someone whose metabolism has slowed due to extreme dieting - when you stop the diet, even more weight goes back on so you end up worse off than before you dieted. In similar way, we had a baby who developed serious weight problems and now as an adult, is obese despite at times a very active lifestyle. She would steal food, hoard it and also binge. She would come home form school having spent every cent of pocket money she had, on junk food. She was a easy child so she had part-time work which paid her well, and she spent a lot of money she earned on more junk food. My doctor friend's daughter has a similar history. Doctor looked it up and found there is a strong link between prenatal malnourishment and later weight problems/food issues. With your son, he needs access to GOOD food. It's a boy thing, too - they can get ravenous and need food NOW. Especially as they head into puberty. It seems to be a growth hormone thing. I saw it with my own boys as well as friends' sons - the boy would suddenly say, "I'm hungry!" and it was like being held up by a ravening wold snarling at the fridge door. I learned to have food available and to keep checking to make sure we didn't run out. Expensive foods had to be rationed or simply done without. But I would roast chicken, for example. Roast two instead of one. Keep leftovers cold in the fridge. Roast more vegetables (I always roast vegetables in a tray on their own, sometimes roast veggies without anything else in the oven) and taught the kids how to use the microwave oven so they could have a fresh roast dinner from fridge leftovers. But the hungry wolf teen male would often graze at the fridge door and eat cold roast chicken and cold roast vegetables, there just wasn't the time to heat it up. Had to eat immediately. So either lock it all up or stop buying the treat foods, and replace treat foods with healthy options. For everyone. Frankly, it is easier to make the same rules for everyone. And if others whinge that they are being punished for someone else's lack of control? This isn't about blame, it's about doing everyone a favour and everyone eating more healthily for a while. After all, it is a gift to your family to give them only healthy food. And if you are all out somewhere and you want to have a treat - you can. Something we have done, is buy a four pack of ice creams form the supermarket freezer, when there are four of us out shopping together. The same treat bought singly would be twice the price. But the important thing is, when a treat is available, to ensure it is shared evenly, and eaten immediately. Then ensure no treat leftovers, because they will be scarfed down fast and secretly by someone determined to get to it first. Go to the seat of the problem and work on that. Best results. Marg [/QUOTE]
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