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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 372097" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>it can be medications, it can me male hormones, it can be both. </p><p></p><p>We also have the Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) issues with food as well as traumas from the past in me not wanting to force kids to eat foods they don't like. But you need to compromise or they will suffer. We were finding difficult child 3 eating only nachos made with my home-made bolognese sauce and one brand of commercial corn chip. So we began to insist that he at least taste new foods. For example, when we're on holidays it is good to buy local produce and try it. In New Zealand we ate fries made with kumara, an orange sweet potato. SIL1 loves kumara and served it up to us in numerous ways. It was SIL1 who taught difficult child 3 to at least have a taste. Once he had a taste he could go back to what he wanted, but he also had to tell us what he liked about the food, and what he disliked about the food. This also got him expressing himself about it.</p><p></p><p>In order to try a new food, difficult child 3 needs to be prepared. He needs a glass of water handy to wash the taste out of his mouth if he doesn't like it. He also wants food he DOES like to be handy, so he can then replace the yucky taste (if it is yucky) with something tasty. And this has led to a positive conditioned response where having a taste (ie taking a risk) is rewarded by then having his favourite food. </p><p></p><p>It is important to keep gently challenging the "try this". However, we don't insist when it's a sensory issue (such as creamy textures, which difficult child 3 will gag on). But even there we've been able to sneak a few foods through - butter cream, for example - we showed difficult child 3 how it is made (we whipped butter with icing sugar while he watched). We also made it clear that butter cream is not cream, so it's OK to taste. We also made sure it was very firm. Started him on chocolate ganache, then worked toward butter cream. He will now even eat cake with a little cream in it, but this is still unusual. Of course, this is only at birthday time.</p><p></p><p>What we find works for difficult child 3 in terms of good food available - raw carrots. Celery. Tomatoes. Bread (he also will eat a whole loaf, preferably frozen). BUT - while it's OK for him to eat what he wants (as long as it is available - and we keep forbidden food unavailable) he must tell us when he eats the last of something. We actually have said, when the number of slices of bread drops below 6, he needs to put another loaf on to bake (bread machine). My personal recipe for bread includes an egg, for added protein. We keep a shopping list and whenever something gets opened, it goes on the list. If we run out of corn chips, for example, difficult child 3 can't make nachos. If he is eating too many, he runs out. So he has had to learn to ration himself because he is the only one who eats corn chips. I let him eat them because they are fairly high fibre and he can also get away with it. He's skinny, despite being a walking appetite.</p><p></p><p>On Tuesday nights we go to drama class and afterwards, difficult child 3 gets to choose what fast food he will buy. He alternates between burger and pizza. The burger is a classic Aussie huge home-made kind that we get here in the small privately-owned takeaway shops. The pizza - he gets a family size pizza which he then has for lunch the next day (or even the day after, too). It's pretty much the only fast food he gets. It's funny though - there have been times when he has said, "I feel like pizza tonight," but refused pizza because "it's hamburger's turn." It's always his choice - he could have pizza every week if he wanted. But he seems to be ruled by his decision to alternate.</p><p>Meanwhile, of course husband & I go to a Chinese restaurant, while difficult child 3 waits in the car. difficult child 3 has totally gone off Chinese food, even though he will happily eat fried rice and steamed rice. So we enjoy our meal and difficult child 3 has learned that the price of his pizza or burger is to wait patiently for us in the car outside. Where we can watch him through the window.</p><p></p><p>You do what works. Yes, it is unconventional. But when your kids are unconventional, you need to think outside the square. It is OK.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 372097, member: 1991"] it can be medications, it can me male hormones, it can be both. We also have the Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) issues with food as well as traumas from the past in me not wanting to force kids to eat foods they don't like. But you need to compromise or they will suffer. We were finding difficult child 3 eating only nachos made with my home-made bolognese sauce and one brand of commercial corn chip. So we began to insist that he at least taste new foods. For example, when we're on holidays it is good to buy local produce and try it. In New Zealand we ate fries made with kumara, an orange sweet potato. SIL1 loves kumara and served it up to us in numerous ways. It was SIL1 who taught difficult child 3 to at least have a taste. Once he had a taste he could go back to what he wanted, but he also had to tell us what he liked about the food, and what he disliked about the food. This also got him expressing himself about it. In order to try a new food, difficult child 3 needs to be prepared. He needs a glass of water handy to wash the taste out of his mouth if he doesn't like it. He also wants food he DOES like to be handy, so he can then replace the yucky taste (if it is yucky) with something tasty. And this has led to a positive conditioned response where having a taste (ie taking a risk) is rewarded by then having his favourite food. It is important to keep gently challenging the "try this". However, we don't insist when it's a sensory issue (such as creamy textures, which difficult child 3 will gag on). But even there we've been able to sneak a few foods through - butter cream, for example - we showed difficult child 3 how it is made (we whipped butter with icing sugar while he watched). We also made it clear that butter cream is not cream, so it's OK to taste. We also made sure it was very firm. Started him on chocolate ganache, then worked toward butter cream. He will now even eat cake with a little cream in it, but this is still unusual. Of course, this is only at birthday time. What we find works for difficult child 3 in terms of good food available - raw carrots. Celery. Tomatoes. Bread (he also will eat a whole loaf, preferably frozen). BUT - while it's OK for him to eat what he wants (as long as it is available - and we keep forbidden food unavailable) he must tell us when he eats the last of something. We actually have said, when the number of slices of bread drops below 6, he needs to put another loaf on to bake (bread machine). My personal recipe for bread includes an egg, for added protein. We keep a shopping list and whenever something gets opened, it goes on the list. If we run out of corn chips, for example, difficult child 3 can't make nachos. If he is eating too many, he runs out. So he has had to learn to ration himself because he is the only one who eats corn chips. I let him eat them because they are fairly high fibre and he can also get away with it. He's skinny, despite being a walking appetite. On Tuesday nights we go to drama class and afterwards, difficult child 3 gets to choose what fast food he will buy. He alternates between burger and pizza. The burger is a classic Aussie huge home-made kind that we get here in the small privately-owned takeaway shops. The pizza - he gets a family size pizza which he then has for lunch the next day (or even the day after, too). It's pretty much the only fast food he gets. It's funny though - there have been times when he has said, "I feel like pizza tonight," but refused pizza because "it's hamburger's turn." It's always his choice - he could have pizza every week if he wanted. But he seems to be ruled by his decision to alternate. Meanwhile, of course husband & I go to a Chinese restaurant, while difficult child 3 waits in the car. difficult child 3 has totally gone off Chinese food, even though he will happily eat fried rice and steamed rice. So we enjoy our meal and difficult child 3 has learned that the price of his pizza or burger is to wait patiently for us in the car outside. Where we can watch him through the window. You do what works. Yes, it is unconventional. But when your kids are unconventional, you need to think outside the square. It is OK. Marg [/QUOTE]
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