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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 254114" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>I still have not rec'd a return call from GAL. I left her a message yesterday, one this morning and another this afternoon. I have apologized oon my message for calling again and made sure I was using a nice tone of voice. The one this afternoon was to say that I'm not an atttny so I'm not sure about this but that I have heard that a judge can order Residential Treatment Center (RTC) for a child in need of services who has offended again and can refer county team involvement, although the judge might have to order it through probation or dss. And I asked if she could check on that just to be sure, since I don't know the law or county policies in these matters.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't have done that as it could be seen by some like I'm questioning the judge, however, several times the judge asks the gal what the law says about something and if probation or dss can do something, so I think I'm ok. I also have a call into sw from dss and of course, she hasn't returned my call either- even though she left me a message yesterday saying she would be in her office this afternoon. She leaves about 4:00-4:30.</p><p></p><p>Are you starting to see why I get so angry with these people after they do this knid of carp then go to court and try to make it look like they know more about difficult child's best interest and parenting and I might be the problem?</p><p></p><p>Now, I just got another call from an "anonymous" caller. This is the third this week and they always hang up after I've said Hello 2-3 times. The only people who have ever called while blocking their number has been the GAL (probably calling from home), my bro (I have his home number blocked), and the kid that wouldn't stop calling difficult child after I told him to. School isn't dismissed yet, so I don't think it's that kid.</p><p></p><p>Edited to add: It was the GAL- she called back shortly afterwards. She is saying that it is everyone else that won't return her call. Now I don't buy that, given that she was including the psychiatrist as well as sw and county team director. But, she said she was not happy that none of these other people had done one thing to make anything happen. I updated her on what I knew and threw in a reminder a couple of times that this was the same thing that I was dealing with 3 mos ago and it has never changed and that as long as difficult child is on probation, I basicly have no parental right to do anything more. She said it's all a matter of funding- no one wants difficult child in their system because they don't want to have to deal with it and have money coming out of their pot.</p><p></p><p>I said correct- and I have been told that they would rather have him turned over to state so that it comes out of state money. I also said that as long as he's on probation the access is to crime prevention money and that money does not cover the mental health treatment that he needs. She said she knew. She said she was still going to recommend the same thing for difficult child in court and let the judge know that dss did not return her calls or pursue anything. I explained, again, some things about the PO being a major problem and contributing so much to this deterioration yet refusing to refer us to county team. She said she didn't think judge will ever let difficult child off probation because PO can order things to prevent difficult child getting into detention. Well, what about the fact that she refuses to do that though? I asked if she had tried to talk to PO because I knew PO would never listen to me. She said she had tried but that "well, you know, there are people who just don't believe that mental health issues exist". I asked if she thought there would be any way the judge would order the PO to refer this to the county team. She said she didn't think so but she could bring it to the judge's attention that the PO could have done this but has not. I also told her again about PO trying to lie about things that I know she knew about.</p><p></p><p>She aslo said it was going to be a problem that I didn't do that test. I said I know and I explained part of why I didn't and told her I had been seeing a therapist. I figure I'll just explain the best I can to the judge.</p><p></p><p>I may have to leave her another message before court. I want her to think about the fact that the judge wants difficult child kept on probation because the PO has authority to access community supports to prevent detention- but so far, it is the PO who not only refuses to do that, but is standing in my way of it. Also, I did tell GAL that when difficult child was in psychiatric hospital in Jan, they immediately recommended Residential Treatment Center (RTC) but I told them I couldn't put difficult child there because he was on probation and they started trying to contact PO and she never returned their call. I would like to ask the judge (or make the obvious question in court)- "Is this probation officer meeting your objective for having difficult child on probation"? Is it even possible for someone who doesn't beleiev in mental health issues to take neceesary interventions and preventative steps for a difficult child whose illegal activity results from inadequate level of care for a mental health issue?</p><p></p><p>I hope the GAL shows up in court showing 1/4 the stress that I have felt after trying to sort thru all this and get something done. LOL!! She also seemed frustrated over this local mental health person not doing a certificate of need. Anyway, after talking to her today, I feel like some of the things being thrown out to me that scared me to death were thrown out to manipulate me into doing things to keep difficult child from costing others more money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 254114, member: 3699"] I still have not rec'd a return call from GAL. I left her a message yesterday, one this morning and another this afternoon. I have apologized oon my message for calling again and made sure I was using a nice tone of voice. The one this afternoon was to say that I'm not an atttny so I'm not sure about this but that I have heard that a judge can order Residential Treatment Center (RTC) for a child in need of services who has offended again and can refer county team involvement, although the judge might have to order it through probation or dss. And I asked if she could check on that just to be sure, since I don't know the law or county policies in these matters. I wouldn't have done that as it could be seen by some like I'm questioning the judge, however, several times the judge asks the gal what the law says about something and if probation or dss can do something, so I think I'm ok. I also have a call into sw from dss and of course, she hasn't returned my call either- even though she left me a message yesterday saying she would be in her office this afternoon. She leaves about 4:00-4:30. Are you starting to see why I get so angry with these people after they do this knid of carp then go to court and try to make it look like they know more about difficult child's best interest and parenting and I might be the problem? Now, I just got another call from an "anonymous" caller. This is the third this week and they always hang up after I've said Hello 2-3 times. The only people who have ever called while blocking their number has been the GAL (probably calling from home), my bro (I have his home number blocked), and the kid that wouldn't stop calling difficult child after I told him to. School isn't dismissed yet, so I don't think it's that kid. Edited to add: It was the GAL- she called back shortly afterwards. She is saying that it is everyone else that won't return her call. Now I don't buy that, given that she was including the psychiatrist as well as sw and county team director. But, she said she was not happy that none of these other people had done one thing to make anything happen. I updated her on what I knew and threw in a reminder a couple of times that this was the same thing that I was dealing with 3 mos ago and it has never changed and that as long as difficult child is on probation, I basicly have no parental right to do anything more. She said it's all a matter of funding- no one wants difficult child in their system because they don't want to have to deal with it and have money coming out of their pot. I said correct- and I have been told that they would rather have him turned over to state so that it comes out of state money. I also said that as long as he's on probation the access is to crime prevention money and that money does not cover the mental health treatment that he needs. She said she knew. She said she was still going to recommend the same thing for difficult child in court and let the judge know that dss did not return her calls or pursue anything. I explained, again, some things about the PO being a major problem and contributing so much to this deterioration yet refusing to refer us to county team. She said she didn't think judge will ever let difficult child off probation because PO can order things to prevent difficult child getting into detention. Well, what about the fact that she refuses to do that though? I asked if she had tried to talk to PO because I knew PO would never listen to me. She said she had tried but that "well, you know, there are people who just don't believe that mental health issues exist". I asked if she thought there would be any way the judge would order the PO to refer this to the county team. She said she didn't think so but she could bring it to the judge's attention that the PO could have done this but has not. I also told her again about PO trying to lie about things that I know she knew about. She aslo said it was going to be a problem that I didn't do that test. I said I know and I explained part of why I didn't and told her I had been seeing a therapist. I figure I'll just explain the best I can to the judge. I may have to leave her another message before court. I want her to think about the fact that the judge wants difficult child kept on probation because the PO has authority to access community supports to prevent detention- but so far, it is the PO who not only refuses to do that, but is standing in my way of it. Also, I did tell GAL that when difficult child was in psychiatric hospital in Jan, they immediately recommended Residential Treatment Center (RTC) but I told them I couldn't put difficult child there because he was on probation and they started trying to contact PO and she never returned their call. I would like to ask the judge (or make the obvious question in court)- "Is this probation officer meeting your objective for having difficult child on probation"? Is it even possible for someone who doesn't beleiev in mental health issues to take neceesary interventions and preventative steps for a difficult child whose illegal activity results from inadequate level of care for a mental health issue? I hope the GAL shows up in court showing 1/4 the stress that I have felt after trying to sort thru all this and get something done. LOL!! She also seemed frustrated over this local mental health person not doing a certificate of need. Anyway, after talking to her today, I feel like some of the things being thrown out to me that scared me to death were thrown out to manipulate me into doing things to keep difficult child from costing others more money. [/QUOTE]
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