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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 42119" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>OK, she doesn't sound like she's got Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) from your description, but unless someone's got a better idea maybe you could do the Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) questionnaire on her (it's not officially diagnostic) from <a href="http://www.childbrain.com." target="_blank">http://www.childbrain.com.</a> It may give you some things you hadn't thought about, or jog your memory down different lines.</p><p></p><p>Do the test with a sheet of paper in front of you so anything it makes you think of with her, you can write it down. Some of your concerns may be unfounded, but only by asking the questions can you get the answers.</p><p></p><p>Something to also consider - it's not usually considered - sleep apnoea? I know it sounds weird, but a young girl we know has had HUGE problems with hyperactivity, almost manic episodes followed by "I've got to sleep NOW, Mummy," and falling asleep anywhere and cannot be roused. The mother can't get her out of bed in the morning to go to school, and this has been treated as school refusal, coupled with a mother who simply isn't trying. Literally for years, this mother has been searching for answers and not getting any. When this girl is awake she's hyperactive in the extreme. She can be up in the middle of the night racing around the house, breaking things, wanting everyone else to be up with them. When she finally falls asleep she cannot be roused, not even by putting her fully clothed into a cold bath.</p><p>They took her to a big fair we have here in Sydney - the family had just arrived, they were in the building where the show bags are for sale and which is where kids most want to go to, and the little girl (who had begged to go to the show) suddenly said, "I'm tired, Mummy, I have to go to sleep," and proceeded to go to sleep on the floor.</p><p></p><p>The truant officer is a constant visitor. The mother finally told the truant officer, "YOU try and wake her."</p><p></p><p>After years of being mucked around she was finally seen by a sleep disorders clinic who diagnosed "the worst sleep apnoea we've ever seen; her chest is caved in and she could die in her sleep at any time." The mother had been told that her caved-in chest was due to chronic asthma. Now on those rare occasions when the child sleeps, the mother stays with her to try to keep her breathing. They've been told that tonsillectomy and adenoid removal should help, but it's never been suggested before because the little girl never complained about sore tonsils. She used to, but I've seen this happen - the kid gets ignored, the tonsillitis comes back, eventually they don't bother telling anyone because it never changes. easy child 2/difficult child 2 was like that.</p><p></p><p>This case is a really serious one, the kid has HUGE problems. We're not likely to see them for a couple of months, I hope when we see them again that the little girl will at last feel better. She's 8 years old and has been unable to attend more than a month or two of school, EVER. When she's awake she's manic, but she sleeps about 16 hours a day or more. Some sleep a lot less - this case IS severe.</p><p></p><p>So, just something else to think about. You never think of kids having sleep apnoea, but enlarged T & A (tonsils & adenoids) will do it. Worth a look down her throat.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully someone will have more ideas.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 42119, member: 1991"] OK, she doesn't sound like she's got Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) from your description, but unless someone's got a better idea maybe you could do the Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) questionnaire on her (it's not officially diagnostic) from [url="http://www.childbrain.com."]http://www.childbrain.com.[/url] It may give you some things you hadn't thought about, or jog your memory down different lines. Do the test with a sheet of paper in front of you so anything it makes you think of with her, you can write it down. Some of your concerns may be unfounded, but only by asking the questions can you get the answers. Something to also consider - it's not usually considered - sleep apnoea? I know it sounds weird, but a young girl we know has had HUGE problems with hyperactivity, almost manic episodes followed by "I've got to sleep NOW, Mummy," and falling asleep anywhere and cannot be roused. The mother can't get her out of bed in the morning to go to school, and this has been treated as school refusal, coupled with a mother who simply isn't trying. Literally for years, this mother has been searching for answers and not getting any. When this girl is awake she's hyperactive in the extreme. She can be up in the middle of the night racing around the house, breaking things, wanting everyone else to be up with them. When she finally falls asleep she cannot be roused, not even by putting her fully clothed into a cold bath. They took her to a big fair we have here in Sydney - the family had just arrived, they were in the building where the show bags are for sale and which is where kids most want to go to, and the little girl (who had begged to go to the show) suddenly said, "I'm tired, Mummy, I have to go to sleep," and proceeded to go to sleep on the floor. The truant officer is a constant visitor. The mother finally told the truant officer, "YOU try and wake her." After years of being mucked around she was finally seen by a sleep disorders clinic who diagnosed "the worst sleep apnoea we've ever seen; her chest is caved in and she could die in her sleep at any time." The mother had been told that her caved-in chest was due to chronic asthma. Now on those rare occasions when the child sleeps, the mother stays with her to try to keep her breathing. They've been told that tonsillectomy and adenoid removal should help, but it's never been suggested before because the little girl never complained about sore tonsils. She used to, but I've seen this happen - the kid gets ignored, the tonsillitis comes back, eventually they don't bother telling anyone because it never changes. easy child 2/difficult child 2 was like that. This case is a really serious one, the kid has HUGE problems. We're not likely to see them for a couple of months, I hope when we see them again that the little girl will at last feel better. She's 8 years old and has been unable to attend more than a month or two of school, EVER. When she's awake she's manic, but she sleeps about 16 hours a day or more. Some sleep a lot less - this case IS severe. So, just something else to think about. You never think of kids having sleep apnoea, but enlarged T & A (tonsils & adenoids) will do it. Worth a look down her throat. Hopefully someone will have more ideas. Marg [/QUOTE]
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