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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 460213" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Insane, don't even THINK about that. It is NOT unheard of in the US. There is a man in a FL prison with a long sentence for drug use because he used drugs his pain doctor gave him the way the pain doctor prescribed them. Yes. As nuts as it sounds, the DEA in that area is nuts. They told the doctor that if he didn't say the man stole the rx pad (for just those 2 rx's each month - they have serial numbers like checks on them so if you took a whole pad it would be easy to see) and forged them, then the doctor would also do many years in prison. So the doctor testified that the patient misused things. The doctor OPENLY told prosecutors that he was LYING about the defendant, but they told him if he even hinted of that in court then they would put him in prison for drug charges and they put him on the stand KNOWING he lied. So the man, who was something of an activist trying to get the US to see that while addiction is a problem, there are a lot of people who have a legitimate need for pain medications and that pain medications are not something to demonize.</p><p></p><p>The man got a LONG prison term, decades. I haven't heard if he is out yet, though one governor refused to pardon him and the appeals that I know of were either denied or totally ignored. One of the FIRST things that the prison system did for this man was to implant a pump to put morphine and muscle relaxers straight into his spine!! He was such a druggie who has NO real medical problems that he was sent to jail (he had been wheelchair bound from painful spinal problems for years before the trial), so the prosecution claimed and the jury believed, but the prison, the place he was sent to punish him, gave him far more of the medications than he was ever accused of!!!!</p><p></p><p>This is NOT a lie, not an urban myth, I don't know the names at this point but I have looked up the court proceedings because I couldn't believe it when I read about it. This is how crazy pain mgmt is n the US. Heck, I know people who are refused care because they had two pills short when they took the medications to the doctor = most pain docs make you take your medications in to be counted at each appointment so they can see if you have the right number of medications left.</p><p></p><p>Janet, I know you hate MRi's. I also know why a CT scan might be more help. in my opinion you need both to have the full picture. I am totally behind you on not letting them put stuff in there until they know what is going on. I hate that it means you are in pain longer though. There are quite a few schools of thought about the shots for spinal problems. Most use a steroid combo and lidocaine. Not sure what you have read on line about them, but take it with a big shaker of salt if you do much online research. Remember, those it helped usually are out living their lives rather than posting on web boards because most boards don't build family the way we do here. My mom has spinal stenosis and the shots help her greatly. Or did until this last few months when things got worse.</p><p></p><p>Much as you HATE MRI's because the claustrophobia, if you actually want them to be able to see all that they need to see, then you need a closed MRI. Not the open one - it gives an image that is far lower in quality. You need to insist that they either sedate you (usually a dose of versed or something simlar) or else they anesthetize you. They may say they can't. That is bs. They tried a sedated MRI with Jess and it just wasn't going to happen. The movements wouldn't stop. I told them ahead of time, but what does mom know? So we had to go back and they gave her propofol, a very short acting anesthesia that let them actually put her under. It has more risks, this is true. And for most things is inappropriate.</p><p></p><p>Given your problems and your claustrophobia, it is a very appropriate solution, in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>Sweetie, take the pain medications. For a week or so you will sleep most of the time. So make sure that there are easy to eat and drink things by the bed. And then sleep. What is it that you have to be away for, anyway? Going to a job? Nagging Billiy? cleaning the lint out of your belly button? Your body will take a week or two to adjust and then it will learn to cope with the medications and the medications will help you not hurt and help you cope and n Occupational Therapist (OT) make you seelp all day. Until then, sweet dreams. Tis far better to sleep than to sit there whith every move hurting so bad!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 460213, member: 1233"] Insane, don't even THINK about that. It is NOT unheard of in the US. There is a man in a FL prison with a long sentence for drug use because he used drugs his pain doctor gave him the way the pain doctor prescribed them. Yes. As nuts as it sounds, the DEA in that area is nuts. They told the doctor that if he didn't say the man stole the rx pad (for just those 2 rx's each month - they have serial numbers like checks on them so if you took a whole pad it would be easy to see) and forged them, then the doctor would also do many years in prison. So the doctor testified that the patient misused things. The doctor OPENLY told prosecutors that he was LYING about the defendant, but they told him if he even hinted of that in court then they would put him in prison for drug charges and they put him on the stand KNOWING he lied. So the man, who was something of an activist trying to get the US to see that while addiction is a problem, there are a lot of people who have a legitimate need for pain medications and that pain medications are not something to demonize. The man got a LONG prison term, decades. I haven't heard if he is out yet, though one governor refused to pardon him and the appeals that I know of were either denied or totally ignored. One of the FIRST things that the prison system did for this man was to implant a pump to put morphine and muscle relaxers straight into his spine!! He was such a druggie who has NO real medical problems that he was sent to jail (he had been wheelchair bound from painful spinal problems for years before the trial), so the prosecution claimed and the jury believed, but the prison, the place he was sent to punish him, gave him far more of the medications than he was ever accused of!!!! This is NOT a lie, not an urban myth, I don't know the names at this point but I have looked up the court proceedings because I couldn't believe it when I read about it. This is how crazy pain mgmt is n the US. Heck, I know people who are refused care because they had two pills short when they took the medications to the doctor = most pain docs make you take your medications in to be counted at each appointment so they can see if you have the right number of medications left. Janet, I know you hate MRi's. I also know why a CT scan might be more help. in my opinion you need both to have the full picture. I am totally behind you on not letting them put stuff in there until they know what is going on. I hate that it means you are in pain longer though. There are quite a few schools of thought about the shots for spinal problems. Most use a steroid combo and lidocaine. Not sure what you have read on line about them, but take it with a big shaker of salt if you do much online research. Remember, those it helped usually are out living their lives rather than posting on web boards because most boards don't build family the way we do here. My mom has spinal stenosis and the shots help her greatly. Or did until this last few months when things got worse. Much as you HATE MRI's because the claustrophobia, if you actually want them to be able to see all that they need to see, then you need a closed MRI. Not the open one - it gives an image that is far lower in quality. You need to insist that they either sedate you (usually a dose of versed or something simlar) or else they anesthetize you. They may say they can't. That is bs. They tried a sedated MRI with Jess and it just wasn't going to happen. The movements wouldn't stop. I told them ahead of time, but what does mom know? So we had to go back and they gave her propofol, a very short acting anesthesia that let them actually put her under. It has more risks, this is true. And for most things is inappropriate. Given your problems and your claustrophobia, it is a very appropriate solution, in my opinion. Sweetie, take the pain medications. For a week or so you will sleep most of the time. So make sure that there are easy to eat and drink things by the bed. And then sleep. What is it that you have to be away for, anyway? Going to a job? Nagging Billiy? cleaning the lint out of your belly button? Your body will take a week or two to adjust and then it will learn to cope with the medications and the medications will help you not hurt and help you cope and n Occupational Therapist (OT) make you seelp all day. Until then, sweet dreams. Tis far better to sleep than to sit there whith every move hurting so bad! [/QUOTE]
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