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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 593197" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I think that the best you can do is all you can expect of yourself. I have long wondered why so many vets tell you that table scraps are so bad for dogs if you are eating and serving healthy foods. I don't think the vet school nutrition teachers are employees of the pet food cos, but they ARE doing research for those co's and getting grants/scholarships and tons of educational materials and supplies from those companies. In one way or another they are given rewards of substantial value from those companies.</p><p></p><p>There ARE times when the science diet foods ARE actual prescriptions. If you have a cat with recurrent kidney problems, there IS a science diet that is designed to help fix that. It is still cruddy nutrition, but it won't cause the kidney problems and is safer than most pet foods. The problem is that only a very small portion of the animals need that food but most vets will tell you that you must keep the cat on that food for life or they will die a horrible and painful death. </p><p></p><p>Pet food companies are to vets what pharmaceutical companies are to doctors, only there are very very very few regulations for the pet food reps to follow. They CAN make wild claims for the most part as long as they word them carefully to give the impression of being proven by research but not actually saying they are proven by research.</p><p></p><p>I find it interesting that my mom and dad say their cats won't touch teh TOTW that I took over, but when I had it out as treats the cat who NEVER comes out for anyone but my parents and Wiz was all over me wanting more. My folks will NOT believe that science diet is not the most wonderful pet food around. Of course it took the vet six years to get them to believe that, and I have enough other things to deal with so I let them deal with their own cats and dog. </p><p></p><p>It is odd, but any time I hear the claims about puppies needing puppy chow or dogs being so unhealthy if they eat anything other than processed commercial dog food, it reminds me of neurontin. Neurontin is a great medication for epilepsy and a few other things. But the drug co spent millions telling psychiatrists all over that it was an amazing mood stabilizer when it was NOT one. It was proven that it was NOT in any way effective as a mood stabilizer. Many of the studies actually showed that not taking medications was better than taking neurontin for bipolar. The company buried those and told the reps to push push push and we had millions of people taking it when it was NOT working. I know there was a point on the forum where a LOT of our kids and parents were taking it and having huge problems. It ended up being one of the larger court cases to happen and some of the largest fines ever given to drug co's were given from this. </p><p></p><p>There are still psychiatrists out tehre who SWEAR that neurontin worked super well for every patient they rx'd it to though. Makes me wonder what it will take to convince people how bad corn is for dogs, Know what I mean??</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 593197, member: 1233"] I think that the best you can do is all you can expect of yourself. I have long wondered why so many vets tell you that table scraps are so bad for dogs if you are eating and serving healthy foods. I don't think the vet school nutrition teachers are employees of the pet food cos, but they ARE doing research for those co's and getting grants/scholarships and tons of educational materials and supplies from those companies. In one way or another they are given rewards of substantial value from those companies. There ARE times when the science diet foods ARE actual prescriptions. If you have a cat with recurrent kidney problems, there IS a science diet that is designed to help fix that. It is still cruddy nutrition, but it won't cause the kidney problems and is safer than most pet foods. The problem is that only a very small portion of the animals need that food but most vets will tell you that you must keep the cat on that food for life or they will die a horrible and painful death. Pet food companies are to vets what pharmaceutical companies are to doctors, only there are very very very few regulations for the pet food reps to follow. They CAN make wild claims for the most part as long as they word them carefully to give the impression of being proven by research but not actually saying they are proven by research. I find it interesting that my mom and dad say their cats won't touch teh TOTW that I took over, but when I had it out as treats the cat who NEVER comes out for anyone but my parents and Wiz was all over me wanting more. My folks will NOT believe that science diet is not the most wonderful pet food around. Of course it took the vet six years to get them to believe that, and I have enough other things to deal with so I let them deal with their own cats and dog. It is odd, but any time I hear the claims about puppies needing puppy chow or dogs being so unhealthy if they eat anything other than processed commercial dog food, it reminds me of neurontin. Neurontin is a great medication for epilepsy and a few other things. But the drug co spent millions telling psychiatrists all over that it was an amazing mood stabilizer when it was NOT one. It was proven that it was NOT in any way effective as a mood stabilizer. Many of the studies actually showed that not taking medications was better than taking neurontin for bipolar. The company buried those and told the reps to push push push and we had millions of people taking it when it was NOT working. I know there was a point on the forum where a LOT of our kids and parents were taking it and having huge problems. It ended up being one of the larger court cases to happen and some of the largest fines ever given to drug co's were given from this. There are still psychiatrists out tehre who SWEAR that neurontin worked super well for every patient they rx'd it to though. Makes me wonder what it will take to convince people how bad corn is for dogs, Know what I mean?? [/QUOTE]
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