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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 485719" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>IC you do make a very valid point. I agree it's a factor, probably a strong factor. </p><p></p><p>Still the misdx ect are huge, much more than people care to believe, or even want to believe. I've been exposed to mental health my entire life from both sides, as the worker as well as the parent, niece, daughter ect trying to get help. Pediatric psychiatrists are overworked as most psychiatrists prefer adults. It's hard to find a pediatric psychiatrist around here and I have 3 major cities all within an hour drive from me.......when you do fine one they're so over booked it's an assembly line, you sit in the chair, doctor asks maybe 3 questions, you get your script and you're done. Most of those docs have little choice or else they'd never be able to see all their patients, many of them are as frustrated as we are.</p><p></p><p>But I do agree with you. We became a high tech society while we watched family "norms" suddenly transform almost overnight away from the way it had been for thousands of years.......the two together would almost have to be a strong contributor. </p><p></p><p>I was diagnosed severe ADHD as a young child (pre school age) back when the diagnosis was first coming out. No medications. My mom tried them out of desperation and it turned me into a zombie literally. It scared her and she refused them after that. There were of course no IEPs or any other real interventions. The best we had was special classes for the deaf students and 2 classes for Special Education MRDD students. Yet while I had issues in school they were nothing major and I managed to pass. </p><p></p><p>I do remember the extra recesses, the extra PE classes, the jobs the teacher would find for a restless student to do as punishment. I remember spending a few years with my desk right next to the teacher so she could keep me on task. </p><p></p><p>I'll tell you what, the way classrooms are now and the rules and such..........oh man, I would have been a piece of work as a kid. No talking during lunch? Are they insane or just stupid? No recess just lunch with maybe 15 mins to play if you're lucky. We had a half hour to eat (and it was real homemade meals cooked at the school and trust me we ate them!) and a half hour to burn up energy.......but we also had a 20 min morning recess to do the same thing. Group activity, uh I had major issues with the rare group activity we had back then, I'd be in big trouble in a class today. (and this doesn't change at the college level either, does not work no matter what level so why in the heck to they insist upon it??) The homework is ridiculous. Now somehow I learned all I needed to know without 4 hrs of homework every night. (and this is grade school not high school) When is a kid supposed to be a kid? From what I see monday through friday they're going to be lucky if that happens. No wonder our kids are stressed out. Then you add afterschool activities and omg! </p><p></p><p>Ok.........um schools are a sore spot with me. lol I believe firmly in kids need a good education. But I believe just as firmly that a kid needs time to just be a kid for normal development.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 485719, member: 84"] IC you do make a very valid point. I agree it's a factor, probably a strong factor. Still the misdx ect are huge, much more than people care to believe, or even want to believe. I've been exposed to mental health my entire life from both sides, as the worker as well as the parent, niece, daughter ect trying to get help. Pediatric psychiatrists are overworked as most psychiatrists prefer adults. It's hard to find a pediatric psychiatrist around here and I have 3 major cities all within an hour drive from me.......when you do fine one they're so over booked it's an assembly line, you sit in the chair, doctor asks maybe 3 questions, you get your script and you're done. Most of those docs have little choice or else they'd never be able to see all their patients, many of them are as frustrated as we are. But I do agree with you. We became a high tech society while we watched family "norms" suddenly transform almost overnight away from the way it had been for thousands of years.......the two together would almost have to be a strong contributor. I was diagnosed severe ADHD as a young child (pre school age) back when the diagnosis was first coming out. No medications. My mom tried them out of desperation and it turned me into a zombie literally. It scared her and she refused them after that. There were of course no IEPs or any other real interventions. The best we had was special classes for the deaf students and 2 classes for Special Education MRDD students. Yet while I had issues in school they were nothing major and I managed to pass. I do remember the extra recesses, the extra PE classes, the jobs the teacher would find for a restless student to do as punishment. I remember spending a few years with my desk right next to the teacher so she could keep me on task. I'll tell you what, the way classrooms are now and the rules and such..........oh man, I would have been a piece of work as a kid. No talking during lunch? Are they insane or just stupid? No recess just lunch with maybe 15 mins to play if you're lucky. We had a half hour to eat (and it was real homemade meals cooked at the school and trust me we ate them!) and a half hour to burn up energy.......but we also had a 20 min morning recess to do the same thing. Group activity, uh I had major issues with the rare group activity we had back then, I'd be in big trouble in a class today. (and this doesn't change at the college level either, does not work no matter what level so why in the heck to they insist upon it??) The homework is ridiculous. Now somehow I learned all I needed to know without 4 hrs of homework every night. (and this is grade school not high school) When is a kid supposed to be a kid? From what I see monday through friday they're going to be lucky if that happens. No wonder our kids are stressed out. Then you add afterschool activities and omg! Ok.........um schools are a sore spot with me. lol I believe firmly in kids need a good education. But I believe just as firmly that a kid needs time to just be a kid for normal development. [/QUOTE]
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