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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 565748" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>No disrespect of opinion intended, but you do realize that even in the "dog foods", dogs are eating the same things we are, right? Pet food actually is a recent invention to make use of meat scraps of modern industry and to dispose of all those horses no one wanted anymore with automobiles became so popular. Only the quality is different, very different. In some ways it has improved over time, in many others not so much. </p><p></p><p>Yes, mine eat from the table. That doesn't mean they're scarfing down hot dogs and garbage. Even when giving them scraps I'm picky about what I'll allow them to have. I try to avoid starches such as breads and potatoes ect. Although that doesn't mean they don't enjoy potato peels once in a while. They get meat, real meat......or eggs, sometimes a bit of cheese, often veggies. Actually, very healthy overall. by the way Maggie needs those potato peels and bits of raw potato that she gets as the occasional "treat". It keeps her from eating dirt by the chunks. Same with the spinach they had the other night. And yes, that is with the <strong>expensive</strong> organic dog food. </p><p></p><p>Table food is not the reason Molly is over weight. A never ending appetite (I swear she doesn't have a "I'm full" switch in her brain) and love of food is. When there is something healthy they can have from the table, they get it. I reduce the amount of kibble to keep the calorie count down, especially with Molly. But Molly being Molly.......well, if say Maggie's bowl is down for her breakfast and she happens to walk away and I don't see her, Molly is right there gobbling it up. Same for the cat. I had to get a special locking lid trash can for the kitchen to stop her "night raids". A baby gate keeps the girls apart during meals. It's not open until both have finished eating. The cat bowl sits in the middle of the kitchen table where Molly can't reach it. Treats for Molly get broken in half, or thirds depending on the size of the treat. </p><p></p><p>I'm battling the bulge with Molly not due to table scraps but due to an over indulgent Nichole and husband. Nichole grew up with Molly and treated her like a human.......and I swear she shared nearly everything she ate with the dog. This wasn't so bad when Molly was young and played soccer most of the day and such. Nichole moved and next thing I know husband is spoiling both Betsy and Molly like a mad man. On top of that he was feeding them <strong>twice</strong> what he should have been. (without the table additions) He just never thought about it. ugh</p><p></p><p>Once I was out of school Molly's exercise increased and I quickly put her back on the right portions of food and cut off nearly all treats. Same for Betsy. Both lost weight. Not long before I brought Maggie home, Molly was getting near her normal weight. She looked great. But then the puppy food snitching started..........ect......and yeah. At least I caught it before she got as heavy as before. It's just like with a human who has been overweight....once you lose it, it's easy to pack those pounds, and often more, back on again. </p><p></p><p>I went to Nichole's for Thanksgiving. First thing I noticed was that Betsy has packed on the weight terribly. I asked her how much food she was giving her....turns out twice the amount she was supposed to have, made worse by the fact that Oliver likes to feed her doggie treats all the time and food from his plate. So I straightened Nichole out. I dunno what she's going to do about the kids sneaking her stuff because I was never able to battle that one very well. lol</p><p></p><p>Molly eats a LOT of veggies, usually various greens. She loves broccoli both cooked and raw, as does Maggie. Fruit? Not so much for either of them. Molly isn't overly fond of fruits and while Maggie likes them, they don't like her. </p><p></p><p>And yes, depending on what/how I'm cooking, the girls can go 2 wks without something from the table. Makes little difference to Molly. She can eat expensive dog food or cheap o delux generic and the issue is the same as far as her bowels are concerned. If she didn't eat the raw/cooked veggies I give her she probably wouldn't/couldn't go at all. I was surprised the vet said to do the wheaties/bran as I can't say I've had the idea to give the dogs cereal. Oh, I won't say they haven't cleaned up the floor after the kids/grands.....but that is not the same as giving it to them. So I'll see if she likes it and give it a try. </p><p></p><p>Susie thanks for the link. My dogs eat those and more without issue. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 565748, member: 84"] No disrespect of opinion intended, but you do realize that even in the "dog foods", dogs are eating the same things we are, right? Pet food actually is a recent invention to make use of meat scraps of modern industry and to dispose of all those horses no one wanted anymore with automobiles became so popular. Only the quality is different, very different. In some ways it has improved over time, in many others not so much. Yes, mine eat from the table. That doesn't mean they're scarfing down hot dogs and garbage. Even when giving them scraps I'm picky about what I'll allow them to have. I try to avoid starches such as breads and potatoes ect. Although that doesn't mean they don't enjoy potato peels once in a while. They get meat, real meat......or eggs, sometimes a bit of cheese, often veggies. Actually, very healthy overall. by the way Maggie needs those potato peels and bits of raw potato that she gets as the occasional "treat". It keeps her from eating dirt by the chunks. Same with the spinach they had the other night. And yes, that is with the [B]expensive[/B] organic dog food. Table food is not the reason Molly is over weight. A never ending appetite (I swear she doesn't have a "I'm full" switch in her brain) and love of food is. When there is something healthy they can have from the table, they get it. I reduce the amount of kibble to keep the calorie count down, especially with Molly. But Molly being Molly.......well, if say Maggie's bowl is down for her breakfast and she happens to walk away and I don't see her, Molly is right there gobbling it up. Same for the cat. I had to get a special locking lid trash can for the kitchen to stop her "night raids". A baby gate keeps the girls apart during meals. It's not open until both have finished eating. The cat bowl sits in the middle of the kitchen table where Molly can't reach it. Treats for Molly get broken in half, or thirds depending on the size of the treat. I'm battling the bulge with Molly not due to table scraps but due to an over indulgent Nichole and husband. Nichole grew up with Molly and treated her like a human.......and I swear she shared nearly everything she ate with the dog. This wasn't so bad when Molly was young and played soccer most of the day and such. Nichole moved and next thing I know husband is spoiling both Betsy and Molly like a mad man. On top of that he was feeding them [B]twice[/B] what he should have been. (without the table additions) He just never thought about it. ugh Once I was out of school Molly's exercise increased and I quickly put her back on the right portions of food and cut off nearly all treats. Same for Betsy. Both lost weight. Not long before I brought Maggie home, Molly was getting near her normal weight. She looked great. But then the puppy food snitching started..........ect......and yeah. At least I caught it before she got as heavy as before. It's just like with a human who has been overweight....once you lose it, it's easy to pack those pounds, and often more, back on again. I went to Nichole's for Thanksgiving. First thing I noticed was that Betsy has packed on the weight terribly. I asked her how much food she was giving her....turns out twice the amount she was supposed to have, made worse by the fact that Oliver likes to feed her doggie treats all the time and food from his plate. So I straightened Nichole out. I dunno what she's going to do about the kids sneaking her stuff because I was never able to battle that one very well. lol Molly eats a LOT of veggies, usually various greens. She loves broccoli both cooked and raw, as does Maggie. Fruit? Not so much for either of them. Molly isn't overly fond of fruits and while Maggie likes them, they don't like her. And yes, depending on what/how I'm cooking, the girls can go 2 wks without something from the table. Makes little difference to Molly. She can eat expensive dog food or cheap o delux generic and the issue is the same as far as her bowels are concerned. If she didn't eat the raw/cooked veggies I give her she probably wouldn't/couldn't go at all. I was surprised the vet said to do the wheaties/bran as I can't say I've had the idea to give the dogs cereal. Oh, I won't say they haven't cleaned up the floor after the kids/grands.....but that is not the same as giving it to them. So I'll see if she likes it and give it a try. Susie thanks for the link. My dogs eat those and more without issue. :) [/QUOTE]
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