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<blockquote data-quote="slsh" data-source="post: 399944" data-attributes="member: 8"><p>You know, it's a real catch-22. I feel *very* strongly about the right to self-determine for folks with- disabilities. Boo should have the right to say whether or not he wants to live at home or in a supported environment or in a nursing home (current disastrous state of affairs re: <a href="http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-health/20110108/US.Nursing.Homes.Young/" target="_blank">living situations</a> for young folks with- disabilities notwithstanding). I part company with- disability rights groups when it comes to folks with severe mental illness having that same right. "A danger to self or others"... how many of us have had kids who flip on and off like a light switch? I used to show up at ERs with bite marks and bruises from thank you, but because he was calm *at that moment*, he was not admitted. </p><p></p><p>This young man may well turn out to be the very epitome of how services are failing not only the mentally ill, but also the general public. We don't have (to my knowledge) mandatory long-term care for folks with- severe mental illness. I mean - it's always baffled me completely - by definition, doesn't severe mental illness mean an inability to function, an inability to make appropriate choices? Why on earth do we allow revolving door admissions? (OK, I know the answer to that one - it's a heck of a lot cheaper in the short run.) Why, if it turns out campus administration and/or police were *aware* of this young man struggling, was nothing done? Why are parents or peers or colleagues or teachers *not* allowed to refer adults who are in obvious distress (though perhaps not yet a danger) for treatment? This "danger to self or others" garbage just isn't working out so good..</p><p></p><p>It's frustrating and scary and ... there just is not going to be any easy answer. Lots of blame, lots of fault, but I just don't think anything substantive is going to change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="slsh, post: 399944, member: 8"] You know, it's a real catch-22. I feel *very* strongly about the right to self-determine for folks with- disabilities. Boo should have the right to say whether or not he wants to live at home or in a supported environment or in a nursing home (current disastrous state of affairs re: [URL="http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-health/20110108/US.Nursing.Homes.Young/"]living situations[/URL] for young folks with- disabilities notwithstanding). I part company with- disability rights groups when it comes to folks with severe mental illness having that same right. "A danger to self or others"... how many of us have had kids who flip on and off like a light switch? I used to show up at ERs with bite marks and bruises from thank you, but because he was calm *at that moment*, he was not admitted. This young man may well turn out to be the very epitome of how services are failing not only the mentally ill, but also the general public. We don't have (to my knowledge) mandatory long-term care for folks with- severe mental illness. I mean - it's always baffled me completely - by definition, doesn't severe mental illness mean an inability to function, an inability to make appropriate choices? Why on earth do we allow revolving door admissions? (OK, I know the answer to that one - it's a heck of a lot cheaper in the short run.) Why, if it turns out campus administration and/or police were *aware* of this young man struggling, was nothing done? Why are parents or peers or colleagues or teachers *not* allowed to refer adults who are in obvious distress (though perhaps not yet a danger) for treatment? This "danger to self or others" garbage just isn't working out so good.. It's frustrating and scary and ... there just is not going to be any easy answer. Lots of blame, lots of fault, but I just don't think anything substantive is going to change. [/QUOTE]
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