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<blockquote data-quote="InsaneCdn" data-source="post: 458764" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>Janet - </p><p></p><p>Malika is in France. They are not very supportive of the whole ADHD diagnosis over there to begin with.</p><p>She's already tried the caffeine thing - and it backfired. Looks like basic stims are not the answer.</p><p>And it doesn't sound like J's problem is focus so much as executive functions - which stims don't help anyway.</p><p></p><p>Her biggest battle is culture. US and Canada and Aus., etc., are poly-cultural. We expect differences. And we expect conditions like ADHD to exist. France is a mono-culture. And they shipped most of their ADHD people overseas like 500 years ago - so, there isn't as much of it active in France (colonies like Quebec, on the other hand, are loaded with ADHD!). This means that the cultural norms don't work for exceptional children - and there aren't enough exceptional children to change the system (or at least, they don't "recognize" enough exceptional children to even challenge the system).</p><p></p><p>Kid is not behaving like all the other kids? Then the problem is that the parents are not making their kid behave like all the other kids. SIMPLE. (<strong><u><em>NOT</em></u></strong>)</p><p></p><p>And it does NOT help being in an "ancient" village where a large portion of the people have been "local" for countless generations. AND it does not help being any culture but French - immigrants are barely tolerated in many parts of France.</p><p></p><p><sigh></p><p>It would be easier in any of the X-british colonies: Canada, Aus., NZ, etc. (including the rebel ones like the US!)</p><p>But that is not where she is. She is in France.</p><p>And I'm not noticing very many people from France participating on this board... part of that may be a language issue, but it means there isn't an additional culturally-sensitive perspective. Like we Canadians have - X might work in the US, but in Canada, we have to do Y... </p><p></p><p>Malika... I don't have any easy answers for you. I don't even have a good book (still looking) that really covers the executive functions and things that help with those issues... because its not like the standard ADHD focus-management issue. But you can start searching too... Executive functions: initiate, shift, inhibit, plan, organize, etc.</p><p></p><p>Something to think about: research what all the executive functions are. Then look at the situations where J tends to get into trouble, and see if you pick ONE executive function that is causing significant problems. THEN bring that to the board, and we can brainstorm... things that help Inhibit are different than things that help Shift. In fact, Shift is easier to put accommodations in place for - advance warning, consistent schedule, and the flexibility to understand that once in a while, you gain more (as a teacher) by allowing extra time if the class is really on a roll in a particular subject.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsaneCdn, post: 458764, member: 11791"] Janet - Malika is in France. They are not very supportive of the whole ADHD diagnosis over there to begin with. She's already tried the caffeine thing - and it backfired. Looks like basic stims are not the answer. And it doesn't sound like J's problem is focus so much as executive functions - which stims don't help anyway. Her biggest battle is culture. US and Canada and Aus., etc., are poly-cultural. We expect differences. And we expect conditions like ADHD to exist. France is a mono-culture. And they shipped most of their ADHD people overseas like 500 years ago - so, there isn't as much of it active in France (colonies like Quebec, on the other hand, are loaded with ADHD!). This means that the cultural norms don't work for exceptional children - and there aren't enough exceptional children to change the system (or at least, they don't "recognize" enough exceptional children to even challenge the system). Kid is not behaving like all the other kids? Then the problem is that the parents are not making their kid behave like all the other kids. SIMPLE. ([B][U][I]NOT[/I][/U][/B]) And it does NOT help being in an "ancient" village where a large portion of the people have been "local" for countless generations. AND it does not help being any culture but French - immigrants are barely tolerated in many parts of France. <sigh> It would be easier in any of the X-british colonies: Canada, Aus., NZ, etc. (including the rebel ones like the US!) But that is not where she is. She is in France. And I'm not noticing very many people from France participating on this board... part of that may be a language issue, but it means there isn't an additional culturally-sensitive perspective. Like we Canadians have - X might work in the US, but in Canada, we have to do Y... Malika... I don't have any easy answers for you. I don't even have a good book (still looking) that really covers the executive functions and things that help with those issues... because its not like the standard ADHD focus-management issue. But you can start searching too... Executive functions: initiate, shift, inhibit, plan, organize, etc. Something to think about: research what all the executive functions are. Then look at the situations where J tends to get into trouble, and see if you pick ONE executive function that is causing significant problems. THEN bring that to the board, and we can brainstorm... things that help Inhibit are different than things that help Shift. In fact, Shift is easier to put accommodations in place for - advance warning, consistent schedule, and the flexibility to understand that once in a while, you gain more (as a teacher) by allowing extra time if the class is really on a roll in a particular subject. [/QUOTE]
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