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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 394344" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>I'm a smoker and my response is going to be an unpopular one. Yeah, smoking has always been bad for you. I know that, no biggie. I still have issues regarding second hand smoke so called causing this or that. A bunch of baloney. A huge bunch of baloney. Ok, if someone is allergic....yeah probably, otherwise? hogwash. I've read "study" after study, they don't "prove" squat. Why? Because any study, even done properly, will prove or dis-prove anything you want it to. It's the nature of the beast. There are far far too many environmental factors out there to take in to account alone. And sorry but if companies and cars can still pump their toxic crud into the air.......don't *itch about me smoking in my own privately owned car.</p><p></p><p>That said? These laws for the most part are useless. Pretty much the same way seatbelt and insurance laws are useless. People are going to do what they do, regardless of such silly laws.</p><p></p><p>Here we have a law that prohibits smoking up to 150 feet or so outside any public building or inside a building. No smoker I've ever seen follows it. I know I don't. I'm already outside, get over it. The law isn't worth the paper it's printed on because there is NO way to enforce it. Which they soon discovered. lol </p><p></p><p>The smoking in your car with kids in it? Stupid. Another almost impossible law to enforce. (you know how well it works with cell phones and that is way more dangerous) I thank God that one hasn't passed here or I'd be breaking the law on an even more regular basis. My car, I bought and paid for it, I'll do as I please while sitting in it. </p><p></p><p>Smoking is bad for you. Yep get that. But removing personal rights is much much worse for you. Why? Well, see it worked with drugs (remember the take their propery laws?), is working with smokers, and now they've moved on to fast food.........next will be candy (fattening) and lord only knows what. Simply because they stomped on personal rights and got away with it. It won't stop with the little things, trust me. They were just testing the waters.</p><p></p><p>Smokers as a whole pay as little attention to these laws as did drinkers over prohibition. Those who were considerate of non smokers before these laws (I'm one of them) are still considerate, those who weren't still aren't. Only progress I've seen is the removing smoking from restaurants and hospitals........and that was happening LONG before any law was put into place.</p><p></p><p>Yeah. I can just see cops hunting down the deadly smokers in their cars. lmao So not happening......they've much bigger fish to fry and I for one would rather they stick to the big guns.</p><p></p><p>So while it's not that I know smoking is bad for me. I knew it was bad for me the day I lit my first one more than 30 yrs ago. I guess my point is that making useless laws doesn't stop people from doing what is bad for them.</p><p></p><p>by the way as far as smoke free hospitals? Doesn't work. We have them all over the place. People still smoke outside, in their cars, will smoke a cigarette while walking to the front doors and lite one up soon as they step outside. I know because I'm one of them. lol Write me a ticket, go ahead. But I have to give you a name to put on that ticket, and seriously do you think I'm going to do that? I'll just keep right on walking like I've done with every "security guard" so far. Doesn't phase me.</p><p></p><p>in my opinion a campaign to educate and help people have more consideration for others would've worked so much better. And we wouldn't have a ton of useless laws on the books.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 394344, member: 84"] I'm a smoker and my response is going to be an unpopular one. Yeah, smoking has always been bad for you. I know that, no biggie. I still have issues regarding second hand smoke so called causing this or that. A bunch of baloney. A huge bunch of baloney. Ok, if someone is allergic....yeah probably, otherwise? hogwash. I've read "study" after study, they don't "prove" squat. Why? Because any study, even done properly, will prove or dis-prove anything you want it to. It's the nature of the beast. There are far far too many environmental factors out there to take in to account alone. And sorry but if companies and cars can still pump their toxic crud into the air.......don't *itch about me smoking in my own privately owned car. That said? These laws for the most part are useless. Pretty much the same way seatbelt and insurance laws are useless. People are going to do what they do, regardless of such silly laws. Here we have a law that prohibits smoking up to 150 feet or so outside any public building or inside a building. No smoker I've ever seen follows it. I know I don't. I'm already outside, get over it. The law isn't worth the paper it's printed on because there is NO way to enforce it. Which they soon discovered. lol The smoking in your car with kids in it? Stupid. Another almost impossible law to enforce. (you know how well it works with cell phones and that is way more dangerous) I thank God that one hasn't passed here or I'd be breaking the law on an even more regular basis. My car, I bought and paid for it, I'll do as I please while sitting in it. Smoking is bad for you. Yep get that. But removing personal rights is much much worse for you. Why? Well, see it worked with drugs (remember the take their propery laws?), is working with smokers, and now they've moved on to fast food.........next will be candy (fattening) and lord only knows what. Simply because they stomped on personal rights and got away with it. It won't stop with the little things, trust me. They were just testing the waters. Smokers as a whole pay as little attention to these laws as did drinkers over prohibition. Those who were considerate of non smokers before these laws (I'm one of them) are still considerate, those who weren't still aren't. Only progress I've seen is the removing smoking from restaurants and hospitals........and that was happening LONG before any law was put into place. Yeah. I can just see cops hunting down the deadly smokers in their cars. lmao So not happening......they've much bigger fish to fry and I for one would rather they stick to the big guns. So while it's not that I know smoking is bad for me. I knew it was bad for me the day I lit my first one more than 30 yrs ago. I guess my point is that making useless laws doesn't stop people from doing what is bad for them. by the way as far as smoke free hospitals? Doesn't work. We have them all over the place. People still smoke outside, in their cars, will smoke a cigarette while walking to the front doors and lite one up soon as they step outside. I know because I'm one of them. lol Write me a ticket, go ahead. But I have to give you a name to put on that ticket, and seriously do you think I'm going to do that? I'll just keep right on walking like I've done with every "security guard" so far. Doesn't phase me. in my opinion a campaign to educate and help people have more consideration for others would've worked so much better. And we wouldn't have a ton of useless laws on the books. [/QUOTE]
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