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<blockquote data-quote="Mattsmom277" data-source="post: 394346" data-attributes="member: 4264"><p>I don't work there no. It is near to my home and with MS I spend enough time there lol. yes I'm a smoker but actually i agree 100% with most all no smoking policies, by laws and legislation in our province. We have a 9 meter rule from public buildings. I personally would have no problem if they extended that to force smokers even further away from buildings. Even as a smoker I can't stand walking through a group of smokers, so dont' at all blame non smokers for wanting to access public buildings without subjecting themselves to the bad habits of others (including myself).</p><p></p><p>I do not even have a problem with a complete smoke free hospital property if there is a safe off site location for smokers. This hospital does not have access to a safe off site location. It is located backed onto very dense woods. One side has the Trans Canada Highway (right at a intersection to boot) which obviously doesn't have a sidewalk or safe place to stand, especially at highway speeds of cars travelling and living so far north with winter snow/ice the danger is very real. The other side is a very busy road to the University, only road in and out for a college and university plus 7-8 major residence apartment buildings. It is also at a intersection that turns in one direction to access the highway. Again there is only the tiny dirt side of to the road as a place to stand off hospital property. The 4th side of the hospital houses the parking lot that ends at the road that turns onto the highway. So there is literally no option that is safe for a smoker to go off hospital property. </p><p>There is however a huge section of grassed area that extends way back behind the hospital before the dense woods begin. I guess I figure that in a province where a pack a day smoker pays $7-8 in just tax (sin tax), where most smokers would prefer to follow the laws for smoke free facilities etc, I'd like to see a safe option. Safe not just for the non-smokers but also for smokers. If the end goal is to discourage convenience of smoking (good goal) and to protect others from second hand smoke (good goal) it seems to me that many places opt to flat out refuse to consider making it possible to safely follow the no smoking laws and limitations. </p><p></p><p>If there is a very distant location at this hospital (or other places) for smokers that makes it inconvenient (but at least safe) to smoke and protects non smokers, I suppose I can't see the merit of attempting to drive people very far away into unsafe places for their "fix". Being realistic, most people are going to just puff away somewhere they feel is reasonable but others probably won't (and often times shouldn't!) feel is reasonable. Can one imagine driving down the main national highway and seeing a large group on the side of the highway with traffic doing 100 or faster whizzing by, smoking away. With wheelchairs, IV poles, etc? To fully stop smoking, banning it would be the route to go but that is never going to happen. Given the fact that it is legal, I dont understand certain policies on where people can and can't smoke. most make sense to me as stated in my first portion of this post. However some baffle the mind. I'd sure love to see how they are going to handle seriously mentally ill patients smoking on a trans canada highway with all that traffic as well. </p><p></p><p>I just wonder where balance is going for things these days (don't mean just smoking laws). And I wonder where smokers rights to smoke legal and hugely taxed smokes are supposed to fit in along side the right of non smokers to not be affected by their smoking. It seems it used to be slanted to smokers at the huge expense of non smokers. Now it seems that it is the popular politic approach to pretend to lean so hard on smokers in order to accept huge taxes for a product that they call poison (it is!) but have no initiative in actually preventing people from using in their lives. </p><p></p><p>We have a no idling policy here. But walk out of any hospital or mall and the toxic poison from the exhaust from parked but idling cars right at the doors is what I walk through basically into all public buildings that have curb side drive up ability, even when they are designated fire zones or drop off/pick up zones only. that annoys me as much as a big cloud of smokers smoke, if that makes sense. </p><p></p><p>Anyhow, I totally respect everyones differing opinions even if they dont' agree with mine, just for the record lol.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mattsmom277, post: 394346, member: 4264"] I don't work there no. It is near to my home and with MS I spend enough time there lol. yes I'm a smoker but actually i agree 100% with most all no smoking policies, by laws and legislation in our province. We have a 9 meter rule from public buildings. I personally would have no problem if they extended that to force smokers even further away from buildings. Even as a smoker I can't stand walking through a group of smokers, so dont' at all blame non smokers for wanting to access public buildings without subjecting themselves to the bad habits of others (including myself). I do not even have a problem with a complete smoke free hospital property if there is a safe off site location for smokers. This hospital does not have access to a safe off site location. It is located backed onto very dense woods. One side has the Trans Canada Highway (right at a intersection to boot) which obviously doesn't have a sidewalk or safe place to stand, especially at highway speeds of cars travelling and living so far north with winter snow/ice the danger is very real. The other side is a very busy road to the University, only road in and out for a college and university plus 7-8 major residence apartment buildings. It is also at a intersection that turns in one direction to access the highway. Again there is only the tiny dirt side of to the road as a place to stand off hospital property. The 4th side of the hospital houses the parking lot that ends at the road that turns onto the highway. So there is literally no option that is safe for a smoker to go off hospital property. There is however a huge section of grassed area that extends way back behind the hospital before the dense woods begin. I guess I figure that in a province where a pack a day smoker pays $7-8 in just tax (sin tax), where most smokers would prefer to follow the laws for smoke free facilities etc, I'd like to see a safe option. Safe not just for the non-smokers but also for smokers. If the end goal is to discourage convenience of smoking (good goal) and to protect others from second hand smoke (good goal) it seems to me that many places opt to flat out refuse to consider making it possible to safely follow the no smoking laws and limitations. If there is a very distant location at this hospital (or other places) for smokers that makes it inconvenient (but at least safe) to smoke and protects non smokers, I suppose I can't see the merit of attempting to drive people very far away into unsafe places for their "fix". Being realistic, most people are going to just puff away somewhere they feel is reasonable but others probably won't (and often times shouldn't!) feel is reasonable. Can one imagine driving down the main national highway and seeing a large group on the side of the highway with traffic doing 100 or faster whizzing by, smoking away. With wheelchairs, IV poles, etc? To fully stop smoking, banning it would be the route to go but that is never going to happen. Given the fact that it is legal, I dont understand certain policies on where people can and can't smoke. most make sense to me as stated in my first portion of this post. However some baffle the mind. I'd sure love to see how they are going to handle seriously mentally ill patients smoking on a trans canada highway with all that traffic as well. I just wonder where balance is going for things these days (don't mean just smoking laws). And I wonder where smokers rights to smoke legal and hugely taxed smokes are supposed to fit in along side the right of non smokers to not be affected by their smoking. It seems it used to be slanted to smokers at the huge expense of non smokers. Now it seems that it is the popular politic approach to pretend to lean so hard on smokers in order to accept huge taxes for a product that they call poison (it is!) but have no initiative in actually preventing people from using in their lives. We have a no idling policy here. But walk out of any hospital or mall and the toxic poison from the exhaust from parked but idling cars right at the doors is what I walk through basically into all public buildings that have curb side drive up ability, even when they are designated fire zones or drop off/pick up zones only. that annoys me as much as a big cloud of smokers smoke, if that makes sense. Anyhow, I totally respect everyones differing opinions even if they dont' agree with mine, just for the record lol. [/QUOTE]
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