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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 589240" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>I have very strong feelings on this, of course my experience is based on my experiences in our area, so yours may be different. Of course others may be different.</p><p></p><p>True in theory, the iep is individualized. In our area there are ebd/ed certified specialists and teachers who specialize in Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). (there are certificates but no area of licensure). They set up their classes very differently.</p><p></p><p>Programs are developed and classrooms specialize in methods of teaching and behavior modification that cater to Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or ED. Students with Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) need very specific, research based methods that are often not used in ED classes. The whole program usually is set up to accommodate sensory integration disorders, need for visual schedules,.Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) social skills training , etc. it is such a part of how those teachers operate that it happens all day not as an accommodation here and there. ED programs often use behavior sheets, assume the students have the skills but are not using them, etc. If that is true it works well! But if the student is really Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD), it can be such a miserable experience.</p><p></p><p>Also, Occupational Therapist (OT) and Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) are well accepted related services for Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). Not as big a deal when they are little, but as they get bigger it harder to get these sometimes, but it is often a part of Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) programs, and easier to get individually for Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) students. </p><p></p><p>Self injury is very, very common in Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). It is totally inappropriate to say it is more ED without a complete evaluation, in my humble opinion.</p><p></p><p>As a sp ed case manager, it was much easier to get accommodations and to get teachers to use them for my Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) students than my ED kids and they both deserved them equally. Teachers treated ED kids more frequently as if they needed consequences and they were choosing to be naughty. I have fought many a battle for them. </p><p></p><p>If Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) is his true diagnosis,.my very strong opinion is to have him classified as Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). You do not know that you will be in that district forever and if you moved, even if it isn't such a big deal there,.it could be elsewhere.</p><p></p><p>No IEP covers a students whole school experience. Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) programs are set up all day to accommodate and teach to their special needs. Not saying there won't be general ed, but those who"get it" for an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) student are in the Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) field.</p><p></p><p>Last thing,.as a mom of a child on an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) iep, he has twice been in programs that were supposed to be just for general neuro- behavioral conditions and the teachers were supposedly able to accommodate and teach to Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) and bi polar, and, and, and....well, those were the two years we lost ground. He not only didn't make progress but because he imitates and needed direct Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) teaching, he developed behaviors we are still fighting to get rid of many years later.</p><p></p><p>Look, I full well know there are places where they can do a good job and there are students who can succeed with any good teacher. But from both the teaching and parenting side, I would fight to get the right label/category. You don't know how specialized a team he may need. It can be very hard to change categories. People dig their heels in.</p><p></p><p>(my feelings have been renewed on this as I have q in an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) social skills teaching private program. They are former public school Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) teachers. The director said they won't hire ED teachers or aides. It doesn't work out. The philosophies and ideas are often really different. The skill sets are vastly different. Q is more successful in these weekly half day classes than anywhere...it's amazing)</p><p></p><p>I'd get an advocate and set a president that you know you're child best and you want what you want. It's crazy to say they will only do an assessment if she sees X. If you want an assessment, request it in writing. </p><p></p><p>If the argument is that it won't matter, then say you'd prefer Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) (again assuming you feel Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) is the diagnosis).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Just how it's been in my in my experience....for whatever it's worth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 589240, member: 12886"] I have very strong feelings on this, of course my experience is based on my experiences in our area, so yours may be different. Of course others may be different. True in theory, the iep is individualized. In our area there are ebd/ed certified specialists and teachers who specialize in Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). (there are certificates but no area of licensure). They set up their classes very differently. Programs are developed and classrooms specialize in methods of teaching and behavior modification that cater to Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or ED. Students with Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) need very specific, research based methods that are often not used in ED classes. The whole program usually is set up to accommodate sensory integration disorders, need for visual schedules,.Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) social skills training , etc. it is such a part of how those teachers operate that it happens all day not as an accommodation here and there. ED programs often use behavior sheets, assume the students have the skills but are not using them, etc. If that is true it works well! But if the student is really Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD), it can be such a miserable experience. Also, Occupational Therapist (OT) and Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) are well accepted related services for Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). Not as big a deal when they are little, but as they get bigger it harder to get these sometimes, but it is often a part of Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) programs, and easier to get individually for Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) students. Self injury is very, very common in Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). It is totally inappropriate to say it is more ED without a complete evaluation, in my humble opinion. As a sp ed case manager, it was much easier to get accommodations and to get teachers to use them for my Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) students than my ED kids and they both deserved them equally. Teachers treated ED kids more frequently as if they needed consequences and they were choosing to be naughty. I have fought many a battle for them. If Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) is his true diagnosis,.my very strong opinion is to have him classified as Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). You do not know that you will be in that district forever and if you moved, even if it isn't such a big deal there,.it could be elsewhere. No IEP covers a students whole school experience. Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) programs are set up all day to accommodate and teach to their special needs. Not saying there won't be general ed, but those who"get it" for an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) student are in the Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) field. Last thing,.as a mom of a child on an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) iep, he has twice been in programs that were supposed to be just for general neuro- behavioral conditions and the teachers were supposedly able to accommodate and teach to Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) and bi polar, and, and, and....well, those were the two years we lost ground. He not only didn't make progress but because he imitates and needed direct Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) teaching, he developed behaviors we are still fighting to get rid of many years later. Look, I full well know there are places where they can do a good job and there are students who can succeed with any good teacher. But from both the teaching and parenting side, I would fight to get the right label/category. You don't know how specialized a team he may need. It can be very hard to change categories. People dig their heels in. (my feelings have been renewed on this as I have q in an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) social skills teaching private program. They are former public school Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) teachers. The director said they won't hire ED teachers or aides. It doesn't work out. The philosophies and ideas are often really different. The skill sets are vastly different. Q is more successful in these weekly half day classes than anywhere...it's amazing) I'd get an advocate and set a president that you know you're child best and you want what you want. It's crazy to say they will only do an assessment if she sees X. If you want an assessment, request it in writing. If the argument is that it won't matter, then say you'd prefer Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) (again assuming you feel Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) is the diagnosis). Just how it's been in my in my experience....for whatever it's worth. [/QUOTE]
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