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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 115117" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Terry said what I was going to say - it's always possible that the anxiety is being made worse by his inability to stay on task.</p><p></p><p>Also, BBK pointed out that stims are generally short-acting. If t hey aren't suitable, they will wash out of his system fast.</p><p></p><p>If the stims are going to work, you will see an improvement within a matter of hours. If the improvement is not spectacular, you may need to rely on non-medication options. But if they DO work - then you have one more tool in the armoury.</p><p></p><p>The medications were almost miraculous in our case. All three of my younger kids have improved dramatically on stims. The dose needed could be small or large - the amount of improvement is still spectacular. difficult child 3 is on quite a high dose, easy child 2/difficult child 2 on a very low dose. But we sure do notice if she misses her medications.</p><p></p><p>difficult child 3 still has anxiety problems. I don't think the medications make it worse - I'm reluctant to take him off the medications, since they make such a huge difference for him. If the medications ARE making his anxiety worse, then in his case we need to find another way to deal with the anxiety, OTHER than taking him off stims.</p><p></p><p>Every child is different, you just have to find what works. But if you make the decision to use stims, and you find they help a lot, have the courage to stick it out in the face of people telling you that "drugging your child into submission" is not a good idea. You WILL encounter people who think they know your child better and who would rather have us all living on 10 acre farms each, in teepees painted like rainbows, each with our very own tree to hug. I don't mean to offend anyone with that statement, I consider myself an environmentalist and grow my own fresh herbs, but I'm fed up to the back teeth with people who haven't had to deal with what we have had to, telling us we are harming our child by giving him prescribed medication. difficult child 3's best friend's mother is easily bullied by people like this; one 'bully' (the one I just quoted) talked her out of giving her son the prescribed medication and instead sold her (very expensive) Goji juice. That woman's husband is a pharmacist who even had a go at me once when he was standing in for our local pharmacist. As he handed over the stims, he accused me of being brainwashed by conventional medicine and not looking after my kids properly; "Give them these special supplements instead, you can buy them from my wife." (Saying this to me under these circumstances was not only unethical, it was illegal)</p><p>You need to be strong to stand up to these people.</p><p></p><p>And if you are now thinking, "Hey, Goji juice might be worth trying," I was re-reading a report today from "Choice", an Australian consumer watchdog magazine, which tested all these "super-juices" to measure their antioxidant level, and also examined the claims they were making in their advertising. They found that the super-juice highest in antioxidant had about the same amount as an apple (per dose). And at $80 a bottle, vs $8 a case for apples, I'd rather be getting the fibre and the other vitamins as well, from the apple.</p><p></p><p>Good luck with it, I hope you find something that makes a difference.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 115117, member: 1991"] Terry said what I was going to say - it's always possible that the anxiety is being made worse by his inability to stay on task. Also, BBK pointed out that stims are generally short-acting. If t hey aren't suitable, they will wash out of his system fast. If the stims are going to work, you will see an improvement within a matter of hours. If the improvement is not spectacular, you may need to rely on non-medication options. But if they DO work - then you have one more tool in the armoury. The medications were almost miraculous in our case. All three of my younger kids have improved dramatically on stims. The dose needed could be small or large - the amount of improvement is still spectacular. difficult child 3 is on quite a high dose, easy child 2/difficult child 2 on a very low dose. But we sure do notice if she misses her medications. difficult child 3 still has anxiety problems. I don't think the medications make it worse - I'm reluctant to take him off the medications, since they make such a huge difference for him. If the medications ARE making his anxiety worse, then in his case we need to find another way to deal with the anxiety, OTHER than taking him off stims. Every child is different, you just have to find what works. But if you make the decision to use stims, and you find they help a lot, have the courage to stick it out in the face of people telling you that "drugging your child into submission" is not a good idea. You WILL encounter people who think they know your child better and who would rather have us all living on 10 acre farms each, in teepees painted like rainbows, each with our very own tree to hug. I don't mean to offend anyone with that statement, I consider myself an environmentalist and grow my own fresh herbs, but I'm fed up to the back teeth with people who haven't had to deal with what we have had to, telling us we are harming our child by giving him prescribed medication. difficult child 3's best friend's mother is easily bullied by people like this; one 'bully' (the one I just quoted) talked her out of giving her son the prescribed medication and instead sold her (very expensive) Goji juice. That woman's husband is a pharmacist who even had a go at me once when he was standing in for our local pharmacist. As he handed over the stims, he accused me of being brainwashed by conventional medicine and not looking after my kids properly; "Give them these special supplements instead, you can buy them from my wife." (Saying this to me under these circumstances was not only unethical, it was illegal) You need to be strong to stand up to these people. And if you are now thinking, "Hey, Goji juice might be worth trying," I was re-reading a report today from "Choice", an Australian consumer watchdog magazine, which tested all these "super-juices" to measure their antioxidant level, and also examined the claims they were making in their advertising. They found that the super-juice highest in antioxidant had about the same amount as an apple (per dose). And at $80 a bottle, vs $8 a case for apples, I'd rather be getting the fibre and the other vitamins as well, from the apple. Good luck with it, I hope you find something that makes a difference. Marg [/QUOTE]
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