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<blockquote data-quote="TerryJ2" data-source="post: 595051" data-attributes="member: 3419"><p>I totally agree with-the others; she needs a neuropsychologist evaluation. It's a day long, sometimes two days. And it's not done by the school. It can takes months to get in so make the appointment now!</p><p>I am so sorry for what you are going through.</p><p>Two things jumped out at me from your description. One is the lack of ability for her to describe what's going on. That's a processing disorder. The other is that she's up all night. That could be the beginnings of bipolar or something in that area.</p><p>Some of the medications she's on may work when she's a teenager. The medications you've tried are not designed for kids. All of us here have families that are working experiments for the pharmaceutical industry. (I'll get off my podium now. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> ) But in the end, our kids do need medications. It's just that we don't know which ones right away.</p><p>What was your daughter's reaction when she was on stims? No change at all? Or rages? With my son, his reaction was immediate--I mean, about 1/2 hour--and he was speaking in complete sentences, and sat in a chair and had a conversation with his sister for the first time ever! Stims work quickly and they wear off quickly.</p><p>Depakote also gets out of the system pretty quickly, so that's a good thing if you want her off of it.</p><p>The hard part is going to be living with her while you're waiting for the neuropsychologist appointment. I feel for you!</p><p>Try not to punish too much; she really can't help some of what she's doing. Especially if she's shouting a lot. She can't really hear how loud she is and has no idea how it impacts other people. Just create guidelines and follow through. For ex, "You're shouting. Let's whisper for a while." If she says she doesn't want to, then she goes to her room for a few minutes and can come out when she's able to modulate her voice. She'll ramp up again in five min, but at least you can tell her, "That was a good start. I really like hearing your voice like that."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerryJ2, post: 595051, member: 3419"] I totally agree with-the others; she needs a neuropsychologist evaluation. It's a day long, sometimes two days. And it's not done by the school. It can takes months to get in so make the appointment now! I am so sorry for what you are going through. Two things jumped out at me from your description. One is the lack of ability for her to describe what's going on. That's a processing disorder. The other is that she's up all night. That could be the beginnings of bipolar or something in that area. Some of the medications she's on may work when she's a teenager. The medications you've tried are not designed for kids. All of us here have families that are working experiments for the pharmaceutical industry. (I'll get off my podium now. ;) ) But in the end, our kids do need medications. It's just that we don't know which ones right away. What was your daughter's reaction when she was on stims? No change at all? Or rages? With my son, his reaction was immediate--I mean, about 1/2 hour--and he was speaking in complete sentences, and sat in a chair and had a conversation with his sister for the first time ever! Stims work quickly and they wear off quickly. Depakote also gets out of the system pretty quickly, so that's a good thing if you want her off of it. The hard part is going to be living with her while you're waiting for the neuropsychologist appointment. I feel for you! Try not to punish too much; she really can't help some of what she's doing. Especially if she's shouting a lot. She can't really hear how loud she is and has no idea how it impacts other people. Just create guidelines and follow through. For ex, "You're shouting. Let's whisper for a while." If she says she doesn't want to, then she goes to her room for a few minutes and can come out when she's able to modulate her voice. She'll ramp up again in five min, but at least you can tell her, "That was a good start. I really like hearing your voice like that." [/QUOTE]
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