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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 405681" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>I mailed a letter out to him this morning talking about this stuff and telling him PO was going to look into possibility of a group home to give him an opportunity to earn his way back home, if he wanted to and did what he was supposed to, and also, so he could be integrated back into "normal" life gradually instead of thrown back into it.</p><p></p><p>This would be a Department of Juvenile Justice group home and since they only have a couple left, they are using them for the worst offenders who are a minimum of 16 1/2 years old only. There are usually waiting lists and the boy has to remain in Department of Juvenile Justice, even past his release date, until his opening comes up.</p><p></p><p>I've been fighting tears all day.</p><p></p><p>Janet, the scenarios you describe are probably the most typical in this country and still might be the way they do things in this state for a kid being removed from a home. But for the past 2 years, given that this state has very little money in Department of Juvenile Justice and dss and difficult child is considered a ward of Department of Juvenile Justice once they are committed, here is what I have been told: if the kid can't go straight back into the family home, Department of Juvenile Justice tries to get them turned over to dss to get them off Department of Juvenile Justice funding for a home because Department of Juvenile Justice only has 2 group homes left (see above). DSS tries not to take them from Department of Juvenile Justice but will if there is a family member that will take them. They HAVE to place them with a family member if possible- apparently new state regulation since funding was cut 2 years ago. DSS will NOT accept a kid coming from Department of Juvenile Justice who needs a group home. They will proceed with a home study to place the child in a family member's home but the kid remains in Department of Juvenile Justice custody until that placement is ready. DSS has told me flat out that difficult child would go to my bro if ever placed in dss custoddy because my bro has himself officially listed with dss here as wanting difficult child. It normally takes 2-3 mos to get a home study- they can proceed with that at any time after difficult child is turned over to dss if ordered by a judge or turned over (on paper) by Department of Juvenile Justice, meanning if that happened prior to difficult child's release, they could be doing a home study while difficult child is still doing his sesntence.</p><p></p><p>Now, when my bro filed for custody, the judge immediately ordered a home study on bro and that was accomplished before the court date to hear the custody case. Given that, it might not take as long to get thru that process again, if it turns into that.</p><p></p><p>If the choice comes down to me bringing difficult child home or going to my bro, and it's left up to me (in all likelihood I'll have say-so in it since judge has never ruled anything other than difficult child being returned home to remain in my custody in the past and there are no current scheduled court hearings), I'll just have to weigh all that then. That would have been a major issue if the last judge had ordered difficult child into dss upon release when he committed difficult child last summer, but he did not.</p><p></p><p>I sincerely hope difficult child starts getting a clue and doesn't push it that far. I'm sure I'll hear him talk about it and threaten it, but I'm not so sure he'll actually ask for a lawyer/gal to push for it or talk to his po about it.</p><p></p><p>I have discussed all this with the new PO and he's aware of my concerns regarding difficult child living there- including that bro will NOT expect difficult child to comply with the law- and also, my concerns about difficult child not having to earn his way home, integrate back into society gradually given what happened last year, and that I have a bit of a problem with difficult child "needing" all this Department of Juvenile Justice monitoring however, then Department of Juvenile Justice immediately pushing for me turning difficult child over to dss if I won't take him back home simply so Department of Juvenile Justice won't have to place him in a Department of Juvenile Justice group home. Department of Juvenile Justice needs to be the ones to deal with it, in my humble opinion- it's a Department of Juvenile Justice issue, not a cps/dss issue. That statement did seem to hit a chord with PO.</p><p></p><p>We'll see. My guess is that IF bro has found a way to contact difficult child in Department of Juvenile Justice, difficult child will be very anxious to tell me about it after he reads this letter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 405681, member: 3699"] I mailed a letter out to him this morning talking about this stuff and telling him PO was going to look into possibility of a group home to give him an opportunity to earn his way back home, if he wanted to and did what he was supposed to, and also, so he could be integrated back into "normal" life gradually instead of thrown back into it. This would be a Department of Juvenile Justice group home and since they only have a couple left, they are using them for the worst offenders who are a minimum of 16 1/2 years old only. There are usually waiting lists and the boy has to remain in Department of Juvenile Justice, even past his release date, until his opening comes up. I've been fighting tears all day. Janet, the scenarios you describe are probably the most typical in this country and still might be the way they do things in this state for a kid being removed from a home. But for the past 2 years, given that this state has very little money in Department of Juvenile Justice and dss and difficult child is considered a ward of Department of Juvenile Justice once they are committed, here is what I have been told: if the kid can't go straight back into the family home, Department of Juvenile Justice tries to get them turned over to dss to get them off Department of Juvenile Justice funding for a home because Department of Juvenile Justice only has 2 group homes left (see above). DSS tries not to take them from Department of Juvenile Justice but will if there is a family member that will take them. They HAVE to place them with a family member if possible- apparently new state regulation since funding was cut 2 years ago. DSS will NOT accept a kid coming from Department of Juvenile Justice who needs a group home. They will proceed with a home study to place the child in a family member's home but the kid remains in Department of Juvenile Justice custody until that placement is ready. DSS has told me flat out that difficult child would go to my bro if ever placed in dss custoddy because my bro has himself officially listed with dss here as wanting difficult child. It normally takes 2-3 mos to get a home study- they can proceed with that at any time after difficult child is turned over to dss if ordered by a judge or turned over (on paper) by Department of Juvenile Justice, meanning if that happened prior to difficult child's release, they could be doing a home study while difficult child is still doing his sesntence. Now, when my bro filed for custody, the judge immediately ordered a home study on bro and that was accomplished before the court date to hear the custody case. Given that, it might not take as long to get thru that process again, if it turns into that. If the choice comes down to me bringing difficult child home or going to my bro, and it's left up to me (in all likelihood I'll have say-so in it since judge has never ruled anything other than difficult child being returned home to remain in my custody in the past and there are no current scheduled court hearings), I'll just have to weigh all that then. That would have been a major issue if the last judge had ordered difficult child into dss upon release when he committed difficult child last summer, but he did not. I sincerely hope difficult child starts getting a clue and doesn't push it that far. I'm sure I'll hear him talk about it and threaten it, but I'm not so sure he'll actually ask for a lawyer/gal to push for it or talk to his po about it. I have discussed all this with the new PO and he's aware of my concerns regarding difficult child living there- including that bro will NOT expect difficult child to comply with the law- and also, my concerns about difficult child not having to earn his way home, integrate back into society gradually given what happened last year, and that I have a bit of a problem with difficult child "needing" all this Department of Juvenile Justice monitoring however, then Department of Juvenile Justice immediately pushing for me turning difficult child over to dss if I won't take him back home simply so Department of Juvenile Justice won't have to place him in a Department of Juvenile Justice group home. Department of Juvenile Justice needs to be the ones to deal with it, in my humble opinion- it's a Department of Juvenile Justice issue, not a cps/dss issue. That statement did seem to hit a chord with PO. We'll see. My guess is that IF bro has found a way to contact difficult child in Department of Juvenile Justice, difficult child will be very anxious to tell me about it after he reads this letter. [/QUOTE]
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