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<blockquote data-quote="Nancy" data-source="post: 512012" data-attributes="member: 59"><p>I listened to a radio interview today with the director for the Center for the Study of Violence, Dr. Alan Lipman. He has studied thousands of violent acts and school shootings and he had some very clear points. He said that in all the thousands of school shootings they have studied they have found an overwhelming number of them were done by people who were seeking vengeance because of some perceived hurt or rejection but the underlying problem was mental illness or emotional disturbances that went untreated. The perceived hurt or rejection or bullying is the trigger or the match for the fuse that explodes and the person commits violence. But he made it clear that if the person was not mentally ill or disturbed those perceived hurts or rejections would never cause someone to commit acts of violence. The act of rejection or bullying or hurt is not the cause, these are things people deal with successfully every day.</p><p></p><p>He also reported that teachers need to have an in-service day that deals with recognizing the signs of mental disturbances and give them the tools they need to report those students to the appropriate counseling services, over the parents head if the parent does not take action. Dr. Lipman is also an attorney and says that teachers have that right and obligation now but they don't know it and they don't know where to refer the kids for help. It is very important that teachers become the front line because many parents either do not recognize the signs or in some cases they are not attentive to the needs. (this boy's parents were in a violent relationship and he was living most of the time with his grandparents or cousins).</p><p></p><p>He went on to say that most of these kids use the social media to publicize their dark and disturbing thoughts and schools and counselors need to monitor and take seriously. This boy that did the shootings had some very disturbing rants on his fb page that should have been picked up and reported by any number of people, including the alternative school that he attended.</p><p></p><p>I was impressed with Dr. Lipman's knowledge on the subject but if I could have asked him a question it would have been....who is going to pay for the counseling services that these children so desperately need because as we have seen with the health care debate, we don't want it and insurance companies are not going to cover it just because he says it's necessary.</p><p></p><p>Nancy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nancy, post: 512012, member: 59"] I listened to a radio interview today with the director for the Center for the Study of Violence, Dr. Alan Lipman. He has studied thousands of violent acts and school shootings and he had some very clear points. He said that in all the thousands of school shootings they have studied they have found an overwhelming number of them were done by people who were seeking vengeance because of some perceived hurt or rejection but the underlying problem was mental illness or emotional disturbances that went untreated. The perceived hurt or rejection or bullying is the trigger or the match for the fuse that explodes and the person commits violence. But he made it clear that if the person was not mentally ill or disturbed those perceived hurts or rejections would never cause someone to commit acts of violence. The act of rejection or bullying or hurt is not the cause, these are things people deal with successfully every day. He also reported that teachers need to have an in-service day that deals with recognizing the signs of mental disturbances and give them the tools they need to report those students to the appropriate counseling services, over the parents head if the parent does not take action. Dr. Lipman is also an attorney and says that teachers have that right and obligation now but they don't know it and they don't know where to refer the kids for help. It is very important that teachers become the front line because many parents either do not recognize the signs or in some cases they are not attentive to the needs. (this boy's parents were in a violent relationship and he was living most of the time with his grandparents or cousins). He went on to say that most of these kids use the social media to publicize their dark and disturbing thoughts and schools and counselors need to monitor and take seriously. This boy that did the shootings had some very disturbing rants on his fb page that should have been picked up and reported by any number of people, including the alternative school that he attended. I was impressed with Dr. Lipman's knowledge on the subject but if I could have asked him a question it would have been....who is going to pay for the counseling services that these children so desperately need because as we have seen with the health care debate, we don't want it and insurance companies are not going to cover it just because he says it's necessary. Nancy [/QUOTE]
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