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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 206337" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>A couple of suggestions - try different kinds of classical music, especially according to tempo and time signature. Fast music vs slow music; march vs waltz. Mozart vs Beethoven.</p><p></p><p>Also, with the blood pressure cuff - the best way to take a dog's BiPolar (BP) with something like that is around the base of the tail. The problem is, the tail (or the paw) is just too small in circumference. I remember seeing an adapted blood pressure gadget in a friend's laboratory, they used it to take the BiPolar (BP) of rats by doing it around the base of the tail. They made the sphygmomanometer themselves, using the rubber bulb for pumping it up manually, but taking the human-sized cuff out of circuit and using something made from a thin-walled rubber tube (it needs to be a thin wall, also very soft). You choose the diameter tubing according to the size/diameter of the limb being measured.</p><p></p><p>Maybe he could talk to a local vet about how he takes BiPolar (BP) in various animals - a vet would have to be able to adapt. But blood pressure is really something simple - it's measured in mm of mercury (because mercury being so dense, the apparatus isn't too cumbersome). You can do it using water instead of mercury but you would need a column 30 feet high to do it. Mercury is dangerous to use if you're not careful - spills have to be cleaned up carefully, yet old sphygmomanometers are around everywhere, we used to use them at work all the time.</p><p></p><p>You might be able to adapt an electronic one to use a cobbled-in miniature cuff like I described; that would be safer than playing with mercury. But you would still need to know what is normal BiPolar (BP) for a dog. Then again, the process of taking the dog's BiPolar (BP) could make her more agitated!</p><p></p><p>If difficult child tries to make a miniature BiPolar (BP) cuff, he could practice with it on his finger (or yours).</p><p></p><p>Tell him to think like a scientist. Show him what I've written here, see if it gives him ideas. Get him to read up on how sphygmomanometers work, I think he'll be pleasantly surprised at how simply they are in principle. Not the electronic ones, of course - but they should be adaptable without having to break into the tricker parts of them.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 206337, member: 1991"] A couple of suggestions - try different kinds of classical music, especially according to tempo and time signature. Fast music vs slow music; march vs waltz. Mozart vs Beethoven. Also, with the blood pressure cuff - the best way to take a dog's BiPolar (BP) with something like that is around the base of the tail. The problem is, the tail (or the paw) is just too small in circumference. I remember seeing an adapted blood pressure gadget in a friend's laboratory, they used it to take the BiPolar (BP) of rats by doing it around the base of the tail. They made the sphygmomanometer themselves, using the rubber bulb for pumping it up manually, but taking the human-sized cuff out of circuit and using something made from a thin-walled rubber tube (it needs to be a thin wall, also very soft). You choose the diameter tubing according to the size/diameter of the limb being measured. Maybe he could talk to a local vet about how he takes BiPolar (BP) in various animals - a vet would have to be able to adapt. But blood pressure is really something simple - it's measured in mm of mercury (because mercury being so dense, the apparatus isn't too cumbersome). You can do it using water instead of mercury but you would need a column 30 feet high to do it. Mercury is dangerous to use if you're not careful - spills have to be cleaned up carefully, yet old sphygmomanometers are around everywhere, we used to use them at work all the time. You might be able to adapt an electronic one to use a cobbled-in miniature cuff like I described; that would be safer than playing with mercury. But you would still need to know what is normal BiPolar (BP) for a dog. Then again, the process of taking the dog's BiPolar (BP) could make her more agitated! If difficult child tries to make a miniature BiPolar (BP) cuff, he could practice with it on his finger (or yours). Tell him to think like a scientist. Show him what I've written here, see if it gives him ideas. Get him to read up on how sphygmomanometers work, I think he'll be pleasantly surprised at how simply they are in principle. Not the electronic ones, of course - but they should be adaptable without having to break into the tricker parts of them. Marg [/QUOTE]
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