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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 411511" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I have been around people who were using but didn't do it myself. i developed serious problems with arthritis, etc... in my teens and was on some serious medications for those. Not sure if it is aspie tendencies or my parents or just me, but I was always pretty sure that I would get caught if I even tried them. I did find that if I was around anyone smoking pot I fell asleep - so why bother, esp at a party (for me anyway). When I used to drink at parties I had to plan ahead and not take my medication before or for a day after, so it was a real challenge. I don't to this day know if that was truly necessary but it was the advice the docs gave me (with-o my parents knowing - I was told this while Mom was in another room mroe as a "if you decide to try this, and I don't want you to but if you do , you MUST go with-o your medications for X hrs before and X after" advice.)</p><p> </p><p>The only time I was around someone I knew had used ecstacy I was in the dorm and it was terrifying. A friend's roommate kept flipping out - we spent 9 hours with campus police outside the door of the dorm room and three of us trying to keep her from hurting herself. She kept trying to go out the window (the 14th floor window) when anyone else came in. The three really strong looking guys from teh campus police couldn't subdue her to let the EMTs give her a shot to sedate her so they couldn't get her to the hospital until she calmed down. More than anything else this made me think it wasn't something I wanted to try.</p><p> </p><p>I do know that addiction means somehting different to different people. Even alcoholism doesn't have a "standard" definition. From the point of view of a nutritionist it means something very different than it does to someone in AA or a psychologist. The definition of alcoholism to a nutritionist is getting thirty percent of your calories each day from alcohol. They don't include anything about it causing a problem in your life because if your intake is providing 30% of your calories on a daily basis then it is causing problems and damage to your body even if it isn't causing problems in how you function. </p><p> </p><p>I was surprised to learn this in some nutrition classes - it hadn't occurred to me that there were different definitions of alcoholism.</p><p> </p><p>I do think pot and alcohol are very different from other drugs. Even when taken exactly as prescribed, prescription medications can cause huge problems for you. It is one reason that many medications should only be rx'd by specialists. I doubt that meth can be taken by anyone and "handled' - it seems to devastate people in just weeks or months. I have serious doubts about cocaine being something that can be "handled" because the people I know who all thought that they could do this or they knew people who could all ended up in rehabs. Some didn't get there for twenty years or more, but the ones I knew seemed to have real problems with it. I sure hated working with them when they were using, even though they thought they were sharper, more alert, more on top of things, etc... Instead all they really seemed to be thinking about was how great they felt and when they could have/get/use more. Or how upset they were that they didn't have more. </p><p> </p><p>But again, I really only have limited experience and exposure to most of these drugs. I am sure the media does NOT give an accurate picture of all aspects of the issue. There were a lot of times I knew that various drugs were available and had some awareness of people who were using and sellling, but I stayed away as much as possible because I was very much afraid of them = of what they would do with my other medications, of how they would make me feel, and of what would happen when I came down if I ever tried.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 411511, member: 1233"] I have been around people who were using but didn't do it myself. i developed serious problems with arthritis, etc... in my teens and was on some serious medications for those. Not sure if it is aspie tendencies or my parents or just me, but I was always pretty sure that I would get caught if I even tried them. I did find that if I was around anyone smoking pot I fell asleep - so why bother, esp at a party (for me anyway). When I used to drink at parties I had to plan ahead and not take my medication before or for a day after, so it was a real challenge. I don't to this day know if that was truly necessary but it was the advice the docs gave me (with-o my parents knowing - I was told this while Mom was in another room mroe as a "if you decide to try this, and I don't want you to but if you do , you MUST go with-o your medications for X hrs before and X after" advice.) The only time I was around someone I knew had used ecstacy I was in the dorm and it was terrifying. A friend's roommate kept flipping out - we spent 9 hours with campus police outside the door of the dorm room and three of us trying to keep her from hurting herself. She kept trying to go out the window (the 14th floor window) when anyone else came in. The three really strong looking guys from teh campus police couldn't subdue her to let the EMTs give her a shot to sedate her so they couldn't get her to the hospital until she calmed down. More than anything else this made me think it wasn't something I wanted to try. I do know that addiction means somehting different to different people. Even alcoholism doesn't have a "standard" definition. From the point of view of a nutritionist it means something very different than it does to someone in AA or a psychologist. The definition of alcoholism to a nutritionist is getting thirty percent of your calories each day from alcohol. They don't include anything about it causing a problem in your life because if your intake is providing 30% of your calories on a daily basis then it is causing problems and damage to your body even if it isn't causing problems in how you function. I was surprised to learn this in some nutrition classes - it hadn't occurred to me that there were different definitions of alcoholism. I do think pot and alcohol are very different from other drugs. Even when taken exactly as prescribed, prescription medications can cause huge problems for you. It is one reason that many medications should only be rx'd by specialists. I doubt that meth can be taken by anyone and "handled' - it seems to devastate people in just weeks or months. I have serious doubts about cocaine being something that can be "handled" because the people I know who all thought that they could do this or they knew people who could all ended up in rehabs. Some didn't get there for twenty years or more, but the ones I knew seemed to have real problems with it. I sure hated working with them when they were using, even though they thought they were sharper, more alert, more on top of things, etc... Instead all they really seemed to be thinking about was how great they felt and when they could have/get/use more. Or how upset they were that they didn't have more. But again, I really only have limited experience and exposure to most of these drugs. I am sure the media does NOT give an accurate picture of all aspects of the issue. There were a lot of times I knew that various drugs were available and had some awareness of people who were using and sellling, but I stayed away as much as possible because I was very much afraid of them = of what they would do with my other medications, of how they would make me feel, and of what would happen when I came down if I ever tried. [/QUOTE]
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