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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 422639" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>On the Aspie front, the eye contact is no biggie, especially if it's you (or other people he's familiar with) that he makes eye contact with. When difficult child 3 saw his first multidisciplinary team at age 4, they asked me to bring in some baby photos. They generally showed this baby making good eye contact - he had no problem with it, even though his diagnosis is autism, and I am convinced that he showed signs from his first week (when I look back).</p><p></p><p>But you also said - </p><p></p><p>Now, especially at age 4, that is a biggie. My boys did get humour, but puns primarily. And slapstick. Pratfalls always popular!</p><p>Anything with more complex subtlety, especially social subtlety, was beyond them especially when younger. I was actually talking about tis with difficult child 1 last night, he is remarkably perceptive now as a young man, although I commented that he still tends to accept at face value what people say, such s his former boss telling creditors that he was in receivership; difficult child 1 commented that he drove past the other day and the shop is still trading and I suggested the boss had lied. difficult child 1 had a hard time accepting that he had been lied to, said he thought he was more perceptive than that now. I was watching him and his wife last night, discussing what they need to do for their move (out of their apartment) and difficult child 1 was coping better than daughter in law, who feels it all as too big a personal load.</p><p></p><p>But if you can analyse the complexity of your son's humour and it seems to be age appropriate across the spectrum of humour, then I agree, this does not sound like Asperger's.</p><p></p><p>ADHD - some believe it is part of the spectrum, and I am inclined to agree. difficult child 1 was initially diagnosed as ADHD, the Asperger's label came when he was about 14. We had always thought the ADHD did not explain everything, but the diagnosis helped us a lot when we needed SOMETHING.</p><p></p><p>medications helped us a lot. They are not for everybody, but for our boys the result was almost miraculous. I liken it to a diabetic who needs insulin. Some diabetics (Type 2 diabetics in the early stages, where it can be arrested or even reversed) can improve with careful attention to diet and health. But if the condition is serious enough, a diabetic needs insulin and will suffer without it. In the same way, the brain of someone with ADHD needs some form of stimulation to switch ON the inhibitory circuit, the one we use for impulse control and to switch off distractibility. The amount to which it works will vary from individual to individual and when you try it and it works, it is wonderful. If you try it and you don't notice much if any benefit, even if you increase the dose, then medications are not the answer.</p><p></p><p>Sensory stuff can also be a huge distraction, but as the inhibitory switch is triggered (to switch down the distraction degree) then the Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) stuff can also often ease back. But it's a threshold - if there is enough Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) trigger, then the person will be distracted. Imagine trying to write a complex essay while sitting naked in a swamp full of stinging insects. You would have trouble. Then the sun comes up and you find glare and sunburn adding to the discomfort. At some point you pack up, give up and go inside.</p><p></p><p>With the sock puppet - it is a starting point. In the process you have made other discoveries specific to your son, and that is really good. So all ideas, even the not so successful ones, are great if they lead us to new and effective methods.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 422639, member: 1991"] On the Aspie front, the eye contact is no biggie, especially if it's you (or other people he's familiar with) that he makes eye contact with. When difficult child 3 saw his first multidisciplinary team at age 4, they asked me to bring in some baby photos. They generally showed this baby making good eye contact - he had no problem with it, even though his diagnosis is autism, and I am convinced that he showed signs from his first week (when I look back). But you also said - Now, especially at age 4, that is a biggie. My boys did get humour, but puns primarily. And slapstick. Pratfalls always popular! Anything with more complex subtlety, especially social subtlety, was beyond them especially when younger. I was actually talking about tis with difficult child 1 last night, he is remarkably perceptive now as a young man, although I commented that he still tends to accept at face value what people say, such s his former boss telling creditors that he was in receivership; difficult child 1 commented that he drove past the other day and the shop is still trading and I suggested the boss had lied. difficult child 1 had a hard time accepting that he had been lied to, said he thought he was more perceptive than that now. I was watching him and his wife last night, discussing what they need to do for their move (out of their apartment) and difficult child 1 was coping better than daughter in law, who feels it all as too big a personal load. But if you can analyse the complexity of your son's humour and it seems to be age appropriate across the spectrum of humour, then I agree, this does not sound like Asperger's. ADHD - some believe it is part of the spectrum, and I am inclined to agree. difficult child 1 was initially diagnosed as ADHD, the Asperger's label came when he was about 14. We had always thought the ADHD did not explain everything, but the diagnosis helped us a lot when we needed SOMETHING. medications helped us a lot. They are not for everybody, but for our boys the result was almost miraculous. I liken it to a diabetic who needs insulin. Some diabetics (Type 2 diabetics in the early stages, where it can be arrested or even reversed) can improve with careful attention to diet and health. But if the condition is serious enough, a diabetic needs insulin and will suffer without it. In the same way, the brain of someone with ADHD needs some form of stimulation to switch ON the inhibitory circuit, the one we use for impulse control and to switch off distractibility. The amount to which it works will vary from individual to individual and when you try it and it works, it is wonderful. If you try it and you don't notice much if any benefit, even if you increase the dose, then medications are not the answer. Sensory stuff can also be a huge distraction, but as the inhibitory switch is triggered (to switch down the distraction degree) then the Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) stuff can also often ease back. But it's a threshold - if there is enough Sensory Integration Disorder (SID) trigger, then the person will be distracted. Imagine trying to write a complex essay while sitting naked in a swamp full of stinging insects. You would have trouble. Then the sun comes up and you find glare and sunburn adding to the discomfort. At some point you pack up, give up and go inside. With the sock puppet - it is a starting point. In the process you have made other discoveries specific to your son, and that is really good. So all ideas, even the not so successful ones, are great if they lead us to new and effective methods. Marg [/QUOTE]
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