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<blockquote data-quote="DammitJanet" data-source="post: 332253" data-attributes="member: 1514"><p>While I too appreciate the list, I can see many items on the list that are NEVERS or DONT's that would have taken away very good placements that we had for Cory.</p><p></p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility is not licensed.<span style="color: Red"> Always a deal breaker for me if not licensed. <br /> </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Verbal and/or written communication between the child and his parents, siblings, grandparents, etc. is prohibited, restricted, or monitored on any level. <span style="color: Red">Communication is often restricted or monitored for a set period of time. Then it can be loosened up if certain levels are achieved. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility requires that the parents and/or child sign a form releasing the program of liability in the event of injury to the child. <span style="color: Red">I never had that happen to me. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The program requests/demands/recommends that they have legal custody of children. <span style="color: Red">I never had to give up custody of my child. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The program requires that children live in foster or "host" homes instead of allowing them to reside with their parents.<span style="color: Red"> My child did live in several group homes and one treatment foster home after leaving a Residential Treatment Center (RTC) but it was not so they could attend a school or Residential Treatment Center (RTC). <br /> </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The child or parent or forbidden from discussing the daily happenings at the facility. Often this policy is called "confidentiality." <span style="color: Red">I was welcome to visit the wilderness camp my son was attending and the group homes he was in. Of course, I didnt know all the kids names or why they were there. Not my business. I knew the basic routine of how these places were run. Now in Residential Treatment Center (RTC) it was a bit different. I never got to see up on his floor and really never got to meet any of his mates there. He wasnt supposed to talk about them much. I could understand that. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The child is denied access to a telephone. <span style="color: Red">Cory was denied access to a phone rarely and normally as a form of being on restriction. We sent him phone cards and the house parents doled them out as they saw fit. For him to call certain numbers we approved. One place had a problem with this and we took him out very quickly. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Phone calls between children and parents are monitored. <span style="color: Red">Like I said before, most calls are monitored for a time period but that soon loosens up. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The program uses confrontational therapy. <span style="color: Red">Cory was confronted on some things that I think he needed to be confronted on but it was towards the end of his time in Residential Treatment Center (RTC). They needed to push him a bit and see how he would react to having buttons being pushed to see if he could withstand the outside world. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Parents must fulfill requirements of the facility before being permitted to visit their own children. <span style="color: Red">I am not sure what this means. If it is like making sure a payment due is paid, well maybe. If it means some piece of homework they gave you is complete, oh hell no.</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility is located outside the jurisdiction of the United States.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Children are restrained or otherwise physically prevented from leaving the facility. <span style="color: Red">If this is an unlocked facility and the children are being restrained from leaving to keep them safe from doing something that would be harmful to themselves...well, I would rather have them do this than allow my child to just run away and get lost. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The staff includes former students/clients of the facility. <span style="color: Red">Former students and clients can be some of the best staff members because they really get the new clients and what it feels like to be where the new clients are at. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Staff members claim that self-injury or cutting/carving on ones body is normal behavior for a child in treatment. <span style="color: Red">Big no on this one.</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Parents are not allowed to remain with their child during the entire intake/entry process. <span style="color: Red">I dont think a parent should be with the child the whole time. It can make it harder on the child. They will pick up on all the parents emotional qualms about leaving their baby alone in this awful place. Letting the child go with a helper is far better.</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The program inflicts physical punishments on children such as exercising for extended periods of time, bizarre cleaning rituals (ie scrubbing floors with a toothbrush) or food restrictions.<span style="color: Red">dont know.<br /> </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The program uses humiliation to "break them down."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The program forces children to remain in solitary confinement/isolation/time-out for an unspecified amount of time.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility considers homosexuality to be a behavioral problem.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility claims to be able to change homosexuality.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility claims to be able to change transgender teens.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Reading materials are prohibited or severely limited.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility does not have a clearly visible sign outside the building or descriptions of their location are vague. <span style="color: Red">Nothing my son went to had clearly visible signs outside that would let you know what it was. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility claims to modify behavior, yet has no licensed therapists on staff.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">A licensed doctor or registered nurse is not present at any time during normal operating hours. <span style="color: Red">The wilderness camp didnt have a doctor or nurse during normal operating hours but the Residential Treatment Center (RTC) did. Obviously group homes didnt. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Current clients/students participate in the intake/entry process. <span style="color: Red">That was standard in everywhere we went. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Staff members offer to help parents obtain a court order forcing the child into, or keeping the child in, the facility. <span style="color: Red">That was standard at our Residential Treatment Center (RTC)</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Children are observed while bathing, dressing, or using the toilet on any level of the program. <span style="color: Red">That was standard at the psychiatric hospital</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility claims to treat drug abuse, but does not conduct a drug screen prior to entry.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility does not allow children to follow their religion of choice.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Staff members must "approve" family members, siblings, friends, or employment. <span style="color: Red">That was standard at all places we went</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Children are not afforded an education in accordance with state requirements.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Medication is recommended, prescribed, approved, or dispensed by anyone other than a medical doctor (MD).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Children are denied medications that have been prescribed by an MD.<span style="color: Red">Wilderness camp didnt allow medications for psychiatric conditions<br /> </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Staff members, admissions personnel, referrers, etc. make statements indicating that "your child will die without" the program.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Children escort/supervise other children.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Children have to "earn" the "right" to speak during group/therapy sessions.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Children are denied outside activities on any level/phase. <span style="color: Red">You have to be at a certain level to do certain things, including leaving the building. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Staff members must approve the withdrawal of children from the facility.<span style="color: Red">You can remove your child AMA</span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility expects total and unquestioned support of parents.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Children on any level/phase are forbidden to speak to other children in the facility.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The facility will not disclose the names of any doctors or therapists on staff prior to the child's admittance into the program.</li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DammitJanet, post: 332253, member: 1514"] While I too appreciate the list, I can see many items on the list that are NEVERS or DONT's that would have taken away very good placements that we had for Cory. [LIST=1] [*]The facility is not licensed.[COLOR=Red] Always a deal breaker for me if not licensed. [/COLOR] [*]Verbal and/or written communication between the child and his parents, siblings, grandparents, etc. is prohibited, restricted, or monitored on any level. [COLOR=Red]Communication is often restricted or monitored for a set period of time. Then it can be loosened up if certain levels are achieved. [/COLOR] [*]The facility requires that the parents and/or child sign a form releasing the program of liability in the event of injury to the child. [COLOR=Red]I never had that happen to me. [/COLOR] [*]The program requests/demands/recommends that they have legal custody of children. [COLOR=Red]I never had to give up custody of my child. [/COLOR] [*]The program requires that children live in foster or "host" homes instead of allowing them to reside with their parents.[COLOR=Red] My child did live in several group homes and one treatment foster home after leaving a Residential Treatment Center (RTC) but it was not so they could attend a school or Residential Treatment Center (RTC). [/COLOR] [*]The child or parent or forbidden from discussing the daily happenings at the facility. Often this policy is called "confidentiality." [COLOR=Red]I was welcome to visit the wilderness camp my son was attending and the group homes he was in. Of course, I didnt know all the kids names or why they were there. Not my business. I knew the basic routine of how these places were run. Now in Residential Treatment Center (RTC) it was a bit different. I never got to see up on his floor and really never got to meet any of his mates there. He wasnt supposed to talk about them much. I could understand that. [/COLOR] [*]The child is denied access to a telephone. [COLOR=Red]Cory was denied access to a phone rarely and normally as a form of being on restriction. We sent him phone cards and the house parents doled them out as they saw fit. For him to call certain numbers we approved. One place had a problem with this and we took him out very quickly. [/COLOR] [*]Phone calls between children and parents are monitored. [COLOR=Red]Like I said before, most calls are monitored for a time period but that soon loosens up. [/COLOR] [*]The program uses confrontational therapy. [COLOR=Red]Cory was confronted on some things that I think he needed to be confronted on but it was towards the end of his time in Residential Treatment Center (RTC). They needed to push him a bit and see how he would react to having buttons being pushed to see if he could withstand the outside world. [/COLOR] [*]Parents must fulfill requirements of the facility before being permitted to visit their own children. [COLOR=Red]I am not sure what this means. If it is like making sure a payment due is paid, well maybe. If it means some piece of homework they gave you is complete, oh hell no.[/COLOR] [*]The facility is located outside the jurisdiction of the United States. [*]Children are restrained or otherwise physically prevented from leaving the facility. [COLOR=Red]If this is an unlocked facility and the children are being restrained from leaving to keep them safe from doing something that would be harmful to themselves...well, I would rather have them do this than allow my child to just run away and get lost. [/COLOR] [*]The staff includes former students/clients of the facility. [COLOR=Red]Former students and clients can be some of the best staff members because they really get the new clients and what it feels like to be where the new clients are at. [/COLOR] [*]Staff members claim that self-injury or cutting/carving on ones body is normal behavior for a child in treatment. [COLOR=Red]Big no on this one.[/COLOR] [*]Parents are not allowed to remain with their child during the entire intake/entry process. [COLOR=Red]I dont think a parent should be with the child the whole time. It can make it harder on the child. They will pick up on all the parents emotional qualms about leaving their baby alone in this awful place. Letting the child go with a helper is far better.[/COLOR] [*]The program inflicts physical punishments on children such as exercising for extended periods of time, bizarre cleaning rituals (ie scrubbing floors with a toothbrush) or food restrictions.[COLOR=Red]dont know. [/COLOR] [*]The program uses humiliation to "break them down." [*]The program forces children to remain in solitary confinement/isolation/time-out for an unspecified amount of time. [*]The facility considers homosexuality to be a behavioral problem. [*]The facility claims to be able to change homosexuality. [*]The facility claims to be able to change transgender teens. [*]Reading materials are prohibited or severely limited. [*]The facility does not have a clearly visible sign outside the building or descriptions of their location are vague. [COLOR=Red]Nothing my son went to had clearly visible signs outside that would let you know what it was. [/COLOR] [*]The facility claims to modify behavior, yet has no licensed therapists on staff. [*]A licensed doctor or registered nurse is not present at any time during normal operating hours. [COLOR=Red]The wilderness camp didnt have a doctor or nurse during normal operating hours but the Residential Treatment Center (RTC) did. Obviously group homes didnt. [/COLOR] [*]Current clients/students participate in the intake/entry process. [COLOR=Red]That was standard in everywhere we went. [/COLOR] [*]Staff members offer to help parents obtain a court order forcing the child into, or keeping the child in, the facility. [COLOR=Red]That was standard at our Residential Treatment Center (RTC)[/COLOR] [*]Children are observed while bathing, dressing, or using the toilet on any level of the program. [COLOR=Red]That was standard at the psychiatric hospital[/COLOR] [*]The facility claims to treat drug abuse, but does not conduct a drug screen prior to entry. [*]The facility does not allow children to follow their religion of choice. [*]Staff members must "approve" family members, siblings, friends, or employment. [COLOR=Red]That was standard at all places we went[/COLOR] [*]Children are not afforded an education in accordance with state requirements. [*]Medication is recommended, prescribed, approved, or dispensed by anyone other than a medical doctor (MD). [*]Children are denied medications that have been prescribed by an MD.[COLOR=Red]Wilderness camp didnt allow medications for psychiatric conditions [/COLOR] [*]Staff members, admissions personnel, referrers, etc. make statements indicating that "your child will die without" the program. [*]Children escort/supervise other children. [*]Children have to "earn" the "right" to speak during group/therapy sessions. [*]Children are denied outside activities on any level/phase. [COLOR=Red]You have to be at a certain level to do certain things, including leaving the building. [/COLOR] [*]Staff members must approve the withdrawal of children from the facility.[COLOR=Red]You can remove your child AMA[/COLOR] [*]The facility expects total and unquestioned support of parents. [*]Children on any level/phase are forbidden to speak to other children in the facility. [*]The facility will not disclose the names of any doctors or therapists on staff prior to the child's admittance into the program. 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