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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 332255" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>in my humble opinion, it's like slsh is saying- it's not really an absolute and can't be when dealing with our difficult child's. Just like we as parents can't say we can follow a certain behavior plan for them at home all the time and never vary on it. OK- maybe there are some absolutes- the child is not to be beaten, sexually abused (or even touched or talked to in that way), locked out in the cold, or starved. They have a right to an education and access/means to report violations against them.</p><p></p><p>I was a little concerned about the wording on that list saying that a parent wasn't allowed to contact or speak to a child. It appears more to me that they sometimes don't allow the child contact with anyone- even the parent. Department of Juvenile Justice does this at these times: 1) the first 6-8 weeks the child is there, 2) no phone calls or letters are allowed if the child is in trouble, 3) if the parent is accused of abuse/neglect or lost parental rights, 4) if either the parent or the child does not want contact for a while, 5) if the staff/jufge/PO/GAL (with court backing) has determined that parental contact is not in the child's best interest at that time.</p><p></p><p>Now supposedly we as parents are supposed to feel comfortable with this because it's a legal system that has it's own authorities monitoring it. But a report was recently published and out of all the juvenile justice facilities across the country, 13 reported many serious sexual abuse incidents. Two of those 13 were in my state so I don't feel too comfortable. Fortunately, my son is not in either of those two but still, his facility reports to the same authorities as those two and difficult child has told me there are inappropriate communications between kids and staff where he is- although he swears that no sexual incidents where he is have involved him.</p><p></p><p>I can tell you that if I was paying for my son to be somewhere, I would expect more accountability than what I'm getting- which is basicly none. And if they restricted contact anymore than Department of Juvenile Justice (as I've listed above), I would have a big problem with it. But I'm ok with the amount of contact difficult child and I have. Oh- they do read our letters and can listen in on phone calls and I am frisked before entering and not aloowed to take anything at all in except my drivers license and the tag thingy they give me when they take my car keys at the security gate. difficult child gets strip searched at the end of any visit or meeting I attend there. (That does break my mommy heart.) When we visit in person (weekly), we can talk privately but we are watched. We can hug each other.</p><p></p><p>Steely, M was being violent with you just like my son was getting that way with me. You are very lucky (actually M is very lucky) that you had the option to get him somewhere else besides incarcerated. I know you think this is supposed to be a very different type of place, but everyone in this state in any public agency swears that where my son is, is actually a Residential Treatment Center (RTC)- it's just run by the state Department of Juvenile Justice. I'm not saying this so you'll feel worse or sympathize with me, but just to try to help you as you decipher if M's Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is really helping him or if there's really reason to think he is being mistreated.</p><p></p><p>I hope that helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 332255, member: 3699"] in my humble opinion, it's like slsh is saying- it's not really an absolute and can't be when dealing with our difficult child's. Just like we as parents can't say we can follow a certain behavior plan for them at home all the time and never vary on it. OK- maybe there are some absolutes- the child is not to be beaten, sexually abused (or even touched or talked to in that way), locked out in the cold, or starved. They have a right to an education and access/means to report violations against them. I was a little concerned about the wording on that list saying that a parent wasn't allowed to contact or speak to a child. It appears more to me that they sometimes don't allow the child contact with anyone- even the parent. Department of Juvenile Justice does this at these times: 1) the first 6-8 weeks the child is there, 2) no phone calls or letters are allowed if the child is in trouble, 3) if the parent is accused of abuse/neglect or lost parental rights, 4) if either the parent or the child does not want contact for a while, 5) if the staff/jufge/PO/GAL (with court backing) has determined that parental contact is not in the child's best interest at that time. Now supposedly we as parents are supposed to feel comfortable with this because it's a legal system that has it's own authorities monitoring it. But a report was recently published and out of all the juvenile justice facilities across the country, 13 reported many serious sexual abuse incidents. Two of those 13 were in my state so I don't feel too comfortable. Fortunately, my son is not in either of those two but still, his facility reports to the same authorities as those two and difficult child has told me there are inappropriate communications between kids and staff where he is- although he swears that no sexual incidents where he is have involved him. I can tell you that if I was paying for my son to be somewhere, I would expect more accountability than what I'm getting- which is basicly none. And if they restricted contact anymore than Department of Juvenile Justice (as I've listed above), I would have a big problem with it. But I'm ok with the amount of contact difficult child and I have. Oh- they do read our letters and can listen in on phone calls and I am frisked before entering and not aloowed to take anything at all in except my drivers license and the tag thingy they give me when they take my car keys at the security gate. difficult child gets strip searched at the end of any visit or meeting I attend there. (That does break my mommy heart.) When we visit in person (weekly), we can talk privately but we are watched. We can hug each other. Steely, M was being violent with you just like my son was getting that way with me. You are very lucky (actually M is very lucky) that you had the option to get him somewhere else besides incarcerated. I know you think this is supposed to be a very different type of place, but everyone in this state in any public agency swears that where my son is, is actually a Residential Treatment Center (RTC)- it's just run by the state Department of Juvenile Justice. I'm not saying this so you'll feel worse or sympathize with me, but just to try to help you as you decipher if M's Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is really helping him or if there's really reason to think he is being mistreated. I hope that helps. [/QUOTE]
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