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<blockquote data-quote="Mattsmom277" data-source="post: 577579" data-attributes="member: 4264"><p>Playing devils advocate here, it "could" theoretically be argued that by virtue of being on a persons door step they were placed in a potentially awkward position of not wanting to speak directly to you about any "concerns" they may have had regarding your performance with their children on the bus. Let's say hypothetically that a parent didn't like you based on their perception of your job performance while working with their child. Let's say hypothetically they had confidentially spoken to someone at HS and expressed their "concerns" about your performance around their child. Let's say a couple/few parents did something like this. Then lets say the HS heard the tales of this P character. Let's say HS wanted to release you from your position, with cause. They then have options. Express the stated concerns of parents, however in the process "out" the parents that expressed concerns which potentially is awkward for the parents who have no way to know that you won't pop up employed around their children in later years as they progress beyond HS programs. OR they can use P's statements about your job performance as justification for releasing you. Also, I don't know the rules about the "at will" states, but from reading here it sounds like they can just say sorry you gotta go, and unfortunately employees have no protection. So they cover their butts because it is a at will state, but offer you a basic idea as to their reasoning by stating P's "complaints". By you then appearing on their doorsteps, however well intended, it might be argued that the parents who (unknown to you) could very well have "not liked" you, or "not liked" your performance of your duties were made uncomfortable with your questions. It could also be argued that even if they absolutely agree you got completely shafted based on P's craziness, and even if they adored you and felt terrible at you being let go from your job, they may feel awkward at the idea that answering your questions about your performance, given your effort to have yourself "Cleared" of allegations in your employee file/record, the parents could be concerned at being drawn into a messy situation and forced therefore to be summoned later to some litigation to discuss you and your performance and whatnot. </p><p></p><p>I'm not saying, for the record, that I think you were "wrong" speaking to a few parents. Especially if they appeared receptive and invited you in etc. I'm simply playing devils advocate, as certainly if HS feels threatened by potential action from you they will be doing. The CYA syndrome a employer will surely take since they wish you'd just go away and you are not. </p><p></p><p>With caring, I would suggest that you follow through with your intent to not speak to more parents. I would also consider that if you run into other parents you don't raise the topic. I would also consider that if you run into the same parents who invited you in and discussed this with you don't discuss it further with them (or anyone except those helping with your legal matters). If the parents (or former coworkers) bring it up in discussion if you run into them, I would smile and thank them for their concern, mumble something about it being complicated but that it is something you'd prefer to just not talk about. </p><p></p><p>Also, for what its worth I think you got hosed and I think it's terrible and I understand your hurt and being offended and upset at the idea that a employee record does NOT reflect your experience of your time in your position and unfairly paints you in a bad light. I just think that this is one of those things that without money for attorneys you may need to accept you will NOT win regarding. Unfortunately we all face times we are right and have been wronged but remain powerless to change so simply have to let go for our own peace of mind. I hate to say this but it sounds like you are in a no win situation. I personally would NOT think it fair but in your shoes I would likely not list the position on a resume in the future as to ensure the unfair documentation as to your job performance does not impact future applications for a new job. This just feels to me like it can milk all of your spirit and energy and likely to little avail.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mattsmom277, post: 577579, member: 4264"] Playing devils advocate here, it "could" theoretically be argued that by virtue of being on a persons door step they were placed in a potentially awkward position of not wanting to speak directly to you about any "concerns" they may have had regarding your performance with their children on the bus. Let's say hypothetically that a parent didn't like you based on their perception of your job performance while working with their child. Let's say hypothetically they had confidentially spoken to someone at HS and expressed their "concerns" about your performance around their child. Let's say a couple/few parents did something like this. Then lets say the HS heard the tales of this P character. Let's say HS wanted to release you from your position, with cause. They then have options. Express the stated concerns of parents, however in the process "out" the parents that expressed concerns which potentially is awkward for the parents who have no way to know that you won't pop up employed around their children in later years as they progress beyond HS programs. OR they can use P's statements about your job performance as justification for releasing you. Also, I don't know the rules about the "at will" states, but from reading here it sounds like they can just say sorry you gotta go, and unfortunately employees have no protection. So they cover their butts because it is a at will state, but offer you a basic idea as to their reasoning by stating P's "complaints". By you then appearing on their doorsteps, however well intended, it might be argued that the parents who (unknown to you) could very well have "not liked" you, or "not liked" your performance of your duties were made uncomfortable with your questions. It could also be argued that even if they absolutely agree you got completely shafted based on P's craziness, and even if they adored you and felt terrible at you being let go from your job, they may feel awkward at the idea that answering your questions about your performance, given your effort to have yourself "Cleared" of allegations in your employee file/record, the parents could be concerned at being drawn into a messy situation and forced therefore to be summoned later to some litigation to discuss you and your performance and whatnot. I'm not saying, for the record, that I think you were "wrong" speaking to a few parents. Especially if they appeared receptive and invited you in etc. I'm simply playing devils advocate, as certainly if HS feels threatened by potential action from you they will be doing. The CYA syndrome a employer will surely take since they wish you'd just go away and you are not. With caring, I would suggest that you follow through with your intent to not speak to more parents. I would also consider that if you run into other parents you don't raise the topic. I would also consider that if you run into the same parents who invited you in and discussed this with you don't discuss it further with them (or anyone except those helping with your legal matters). If the parents (or former coworkers) bring it up in discussion if you run into them, I would smile and thank them for their concern, mumble something about it being complicated but that it is something you'd prefer to just not talk about. Also, for what its worth I think you got hosed and I think it's terrible and I understand your hurt and being offended and upset at the idea that a employee record does NOT reflect your experience of your time in your position and unfairly paints you in a bad light. I just think that this is one of those things that without money for attorneys you may need to accept you will NOT win regarding. Unfortunately we all face times we are right and have been wronged but remain powerless to change so simply have to let go for our own peace of mind. I hate to say this but it sounds like you are in a no win situation. I personally would NOT think it fair but in your shoes I would likely not list the position on a resume in the future as to ensure the unfair documentation as to your job performance does not impact future applications for a new job. This just feels to me like it can milk all of your spirit and energy and likely to little avail. [/QUOTE]
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