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<blockquote data-quote="Janna" data-source="post: 96564" data-attributes="member: 2737"><p>SRL, you have touched on something so imporatant. The saddest part is, you're right. I'm now fighting to try to get Dylan O.T. outside of the school. I have to have this evaluation, then this evaluation, then see this person. It's like a 3 ring circus.</p><p></p><p>But getting him on a drug? No problem. Whatcha need?</p><p></p><p>I'm not anti medications. Trust me, I'd be a hypocrite LOL! But, I do think there are alot of kids on alot of medications that may not necessarily need to be. I also think alot of these medications may be making alot of these kids worse. </p><p></p><p>And just as a side note, I'm not speaking of anyone here. Remember, I run a Childhood Bipolar Support page. So, I have 400 people that I talk to ~ alot.</p><p></p><p>I also see alot of the "I asked my son to get off the computer, he spit on me so I left him there another 6 hours until my husband got home" emails, and "because he's ODD, what can I do but leave him there".</p><p></p><p>Pay attention to how many people respond positively when you tell them about behavior mod over how many people will respond positively when you talk to them about medications. When I spend 20 minutes typing up a great email about how to implement some type of behavior mod into their life, they don't email me back. Or tell me "he's ODD, that will never work". But if I say "hey, have you tried a mood stabilizer yet?", oh yeah, buddy, they're listening then.</p><p></p><p>Alas, we did the MDE thing with Dylan. Heck, he was in Early Intervention at pre-school with an IEP at age 3 1/2 due to severe speech delays. He was getting Occupational Therapist (OT) then. He was in a school room with a teacher and aide, a psychologist, an Occupational Therapist (OT), and nobody saw Autism. Nobody mentioned Autism. I didn't hear the words "Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified" until 2003. And that didn't come from any of them that had spent 5 hours per day, 7 days a week, coming from my kids. And even then, that psychiatrist, a board certified M.D., said "ehh, maybe Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) ~ he's complex, I dunno".</p><p></p><p>I think there are 1,000 different ways things could play out. And alot of kids don't tell their side of the story. I'm sure there are parents that post here, that email me, that may lack in certain skills, or are angry at home, yell, spank, that don't actually TELL YOU they do it. Which can cause issues in itself, that may make the child seem one way, but isn't really the case. And how is the psychiatrist or doctor to know?</p><p></p><p>Hmm, did that make sense? </p><p></p><p>I think this takes time. And I was one of the rushers that couldn't wait to find the miracle drug. I just feel so sad for my son that I had to put all that junk into him and maybe he just didn't need it.</p><p></p><p>Lisa ~ the reason we're still exploring medications with Dylan is because of the hyperactivity/impulsivity/severe (and I mean severe) lack of focus. He has a 1:1 in the classroom, because he cannot finish any assignment. It's not that he's defiant and not doing it. It's that he's all over the place. He rocks, shakes, twiddles his fingers. To watch him, it's so sad. He's like Rainman. Rocking side to side. Front to back. Chewing on his shirt (anxiety probably). I don't want to drug him for every thing ~ not worried about the anxiety. Working on that with therapy. But the lack of focus and the inattentive behaviors, we're hoping something will help that. He is so smart! Not gifted, but able to make it at grade level. But in his current, unmedicated status, that is impossible.</p><p></p><p>Glad I gave everyone something to think about. I may repost this on my blog, just food for thought for everyone else. The sad thing is, so many people take offense to so much <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/2012/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> nowadays, you just have to be careful every little thing you say, even on the internet on your own web page lol.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janna, post: 96564, member: 2737"] SRL, you have touched on something so imporatant. The saddest part is, you're right. I'm now fighting to try to get Dylan O.T. outside of the school. I have to have this evaluation, then this evaluation, then see this person. It's like a 3 ring circus. But getting him on a drug? No problem. Whatcha need? I'm not anti medications. Trust me, I'd be a hypocrite LOL! But, I do think there are alot of kids on alot of medications that may not necessarily need to be. I also think alot of these medications may be making alot of these kids worse. And just as a side note, I'm not speaking of anyone here. Remember, I run a Childhood Bipolar Support page. So, I have 400 people that I talk to ~ alot. I also see alot of the "I asked my son to get off the computer, he spit on me so I left him there another 6 hours until my husband got home" emails, and "because he's ODD, what can I do but leave him there". Pay attention to how many people respond positively when you tell them about behavior mod over how many people will respond positively when you talk to them about medications. When I spend 20 minutes typing up a great email about how to implement some type of behavior mod into their life, they don't email me back. Or tell me "he's ODD, that will never work". But if I say "hey, have you tried a mood stabilizer yet?", oh yeah, buddy, they're listening then. Alas, we did the MDE thing with Dylan. Heck, he was in Early Intervention at pre-school with an IEP at age 3 1/2 due to severe speech delays. He was getting Occupational Therapist (OT) then. He was in a school room with a teacher and aide, a psychologist, an Occupational Therapist (OT), and nobody saw Autism. Nobody mentioned Autism. I didn't hear the words "Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified" until 2003. And that didn't come from any of them that had spent 5 hours per day, 7 days a week, coming from my kids. And even then, that psychiatrist, a board certified M.D., said "ehh, maybe Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) ~ he's complex, I dunno". I think there are 1,000 different ways things could play out. And alot of kids don't tell their side of the story. I'm sure there are parents that post here, that email me, that may lack in certain skills, or are angry at home, yell, spank, that don't actually TELL YOU they do it. Which can cause issues in itself, that may make the child seem one way, but isn't really the case. And how is the psychiatrist or doctor to know? Hmm, did that make sense? I think this takes time. And I was one of the rushers that couldn't wait to find the miracle drug. I just feel so sad for my son that I had to put all that junk into him and maybe he just didn't need it. Lisa ~ the reason we're still exploring medications with Dylan is because of the hyperactivity/impulsivity/severe (and I mean severe) lack of focus. He has a 1:1 in the classroom, because he cannot finish any assignment. It's not that he's defiant and not doing it. It's that he's all over the place. He rocks, shakes, twiddles his fingers. To watch him, it's so sad. He's like Rainman. Rocking side to side. Front to back. Chewing on his shirt (anxiety probably). I don't want to drug him for every thing ~ not worried about the anxiety. Working on that with therapy. But the lack of focus and the inattentive behaviors, we're hoping something will help that. He is so smart! Not gifted, but able to make it at grade level. But in his current, unmedicated status, that is impossible. Glad I gave everyone something to think about. I may repost this on my blog, just food for thought for everyone else. The sad thing is, so many people take offense to so much :censored: nowadays, you just have to be careful every little thing you say, even on the internet on your own web page lol. [/QUOTE]
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