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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 487797" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>some of the acronyms are underlined and so if you put your cursor on them they will define them for you... in my humble opinion is in my humble opinion. </p><p></p><p>Sometimes it will say IMVHO in my very humble opinion, etc.</p><p></p><p>If you ever do decide you want to bring it up to him, one HUGE difference is these guys are not working as therapists. While they are psychologists first, they have additional training in figuring out how the brain learns and processes information. How it is connected to our behaviors and achievements. They are actually the ones that can give him some hope and clarity, though it can be hard to get the information at first. But to have a reason why things are so hard is really helpful. And if there is nothing uncovered (seems like he has grown to be really good at doging the real deal though... that's dumb, maybe self medicating??? but for sure acting tough so no one can see how scared and frustrated he really is???? These guys are PhD types, so no medications. They could let him know that a psychiatrist can be beneficial but could also say, heck.... if you work on this or that....you might not feel as anxious because there is a way to work this out, etc. Of course, his multitude of diagnosis could just hold up too. But at least he would know. It is quite a different kind of evaluation to the psychiatric mood disorder types of evaluations. They can help sort out if this is more a chemically based mood issue or a difference in learning style etc. Or a combination of things. At his age, one thing he needs to remember is that anything he does is confidential, it is for his own benefit to get his life on track. No matter where he goes or what he does, he has the right to release testing etc. No one can force that of him. But it could really be to his benefit for finding support for school etc. because the ADA applies to post secondary school too. I hear what you are saying though, at this point he is probably so low in his self esteem that he might not hear it. </p><p></p><p>I personally would rather know that there was something different in my wiring (and it has nothing to do with IQ if someone has a different style of learning and processing, the IQ tests tell more than overall ability, they tell the strengths and weaknesses of our learning styles...are we more visual learners? More auditory?? etc.) than to think that I was just whatever poor self concept had been built up in me. but my thinkig is not clouded by whatever is going on with him right now.... poor kid. Poor you and dad too.</p><p></p><p>He sounds like a kid who could really use a mentor who has some of his own issues but has learned to live with them. Your post just hit me as a kid who has more than what is currently going on... I know you said you see it too, just validating you. I just feel so terrible for these kids. I know he is being a major PITA right now (pain in the you know what) but I bet you also love him dearly and wish he didn't have to go thru this the hard way. The thing that is breaking my heart at home now is not that my son has delays in learning etc. but that he is really feeling he is not a good enough kid. He makes mistakes and tries every single day to start over and do a better job and most of the time he falls apart at some point. Must feel like the pushing the boulder up a mountain guy. He is becoming a little depressed about that issue. I would give up his ability to read and write for a happy kid. I think your plan sounds really reasonable. How do you gear up for all of the things that several people are saying could really happen? It must be so hard.</p><p></p><p>{{{HUGS}}}</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 487797, member: 12886"] some of the acronyms are underlined and so if you put your cursor on them they will define them for you... in my humble opinion is in my humble opinion. Sometimes it will say IMVHO in my very humble opinion, etc. If you ever do decide you want to bring it up to him, one HUGE difference is these guys are not working as therapists. While they are psychologists first, they have additional training in figuring out how the brain learns and processes information. How it is connected to our behaviors and achievements. They are actually the ones that can give him some hope and clarity, though it can be hard to get the information at first. But to have a reason why things are so hard is really helpful. And if there is nothing uncovered (seems like he has grown to be really good at doging the real deal though... that's dumb, maybe self medicating??? but for sure acting tough so no one can see how scared and frustrated he really is???? These guys are PhD types, so no medications. They could let him know that a psychiatrist can be beneficial but could also say, heck.... if you work on this or that....you might not feel as anxious because there is a way to work this out, etc. Of course, his multitude of diagnosis could just hold up too. But at least he would know. It is quite a different kind of evaluation to the psychiatric mood disorder types of evaluations. They can help sort out if this is more a chemically based mood issue or a difference in learning style etc. Or a combination of things. At his age, one thing he needs to remember is that anything he does is confidential, it is for his own benefit to get his life on track. No matter where he goes or what he does, he has the right to release testing etc. No one can force that of him. But it could really be to his benefit for finding support for school etc. because the ADA applies to post secondary school too. I hear what you are saying though, at this point he is probably so low in his self esteem that he might not hear it. I personally would rather know that there was something different in my wiring (and it has nothing to do with IQ if someone has a different style of learning and processing, the IQ tests tell more than overall ability, they tell the strengths and weaknesses of our learning styles...are we more visual learners? More auditory?? etc.) than to think that I was just whatever poor self concept had been built up in me. but my thinkig is not clouded by whatever is going on with him right now.... poor kid. Poor you and dad too. He sounds like a kid who could really use a mentor who has some of his own issues but has learned to live with them. Your post just hit me as a kid who has more than what is currently going on... I know you said you see it too, just validating you. I just feel so terrible for these kids. I know he is being a major PITA right now (pain in the you know what) but I bet you also love him dearly and wish he didn't have to go thru this the hard way. The thing that is breaking my heart at home now is not that my son has delays in learning etc. but that he is really feeling he is not a good enough kid. He makes mistakes and tries every single day to start over and do a better job and most of the time he falls apart at some point. Must feel like the pushing the boulder up a mountain guy. He is becoming a little depressed about that issue. I would give up his ability to read and write for a happy kid. I think your plan sounds really reasonable. How do you gear up for all of the things that several people are saying could really happen? It must be so hard. {{{HUGS}}} [/QUOTE]
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