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So what were we told is "child abuse" in my work orientation meeting by rep from CPS?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 457056" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>JJJ, you do make a valid point.</p><p></p><p>Am I the only one who has noticed that cps seems to tend to remove children that in all honestly really don't need to be removed at a far higher percentage than those that do need to be removed? I've seen this often too. Which is why I don't think they have any real clue what they're doing or perhaps they really just get so jaded they don't care after a while. </p><p></p><p>My nieces lived through horrid neglect and abuse but it wasn't until bro's 1st wife tried to murder them by burning down the apartment that they decided to sit up and take notice. This is with endless reports to them from pediatrician docs, family, my bro, neighbors, ect ect. Then when they did, because seriously they had no choice at that point........They have nerve enough to tell my bro who was living in Texas (kids were in Illinois), he had 48 hrs to come pick them up or he'd lose his parental rights too. Seriously? The man was unemployed up until right before this happened......my Mom had to loan him the money to fly back home. He had nothing to do with any of the abuse......and they still copped an attitude with him. </p><p></p><p>I've reported some pretty horrific things over the years. Nothing. They 'might' do a check IF the police drag them into it. (talking 3 states here, not just one)</p><p></p><p>Yet while husband was in the ER friday night.........a family was there across the room from us. CPS worker was trying her best to keep the conversation private but with only curtains between stretchers......and a mom who is NOT happy and is determined everyone is going to here what is going on...you hear just about everything. Seems they brought a toddler in who was injured significantly.....not life threatening, not even enough to stay in hospital......when hospital staff asked what happened the Dad (who brought the injured child along with the sibs in) was honest and told them he'd dozed off accidentally and the toddler had injured himself. He woke immediately and rushed him to the ER. Dad felt horrid. ER staff called the police, who in turn called cps.</p><p></p><p>Now granted I don't know these people. But those kids were clean, well dressed, obviously well fed, well behaved normal young children. Even cps worker admitted (mom brought it up) that parents had never been in trouble with the law, never ever had a report made to cps. Mom kept saying she didn't understand, her kids were well loved, well fed, clean, clothed, played with ect ect ect. And cps worker kept saying there were other "forms" of neglect. wth?</p><p></p><p>Unless there was something going on that I didn't manage to hear in that loud conversation (by the way mom was being very polite, very articulate without being snarky), I got no indication those kids were being neglected. Should dad have fallen asleep? Well no. But it happens. Turns out Mom and dad are working alt shifts trying to hold on to their home and feed their kids and grabbing whatever overtime they can....taking turns watching the kids because they couldn't afford a sitter. It wasn't deliberate, it was an accident. I can't tell you how many times easy child has fallen asleep while studying when she was working full time and Darrin was playing in the livingroom. They could've easily just investigated without removing the kids. But no, decent family doing what they have to in order to survive.....and they lose their kids.</p><p></p><p>I've seen similar where the family has both police records and a cps file that is a book walk out with their kids......with a "might" on the investigation part. Ridiculous.</p><p></p><p>I'll get off my soap box because I literally could go on and on and on with this.</p><p></p><p>I realize their jobs aren't easy and appearances can be deceiving but still.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 457056, member: 84"] JJJ, you do make a valid point. Am I the only one who has noticed that cps seems to tend to remove children that in all honestly really don't need to be removed at a far higher percentage than those that do need to be removed? I've seen this often too. Which is why I don't think they have any real clue what they're doing or perhaps they really just get so jaded they don't care after a while. My nieces lived through horrid neglect and abuse but it wasn't until bro's 1st wife tried to murder them by burning down the apartment that they decided to sit up and take notice. This is with endless reports to them from pediatrician docs, family, my bro, neighbors, ect ect. Then when they did, because seriously they had no choice at that point........They have nerve enough to tell my bro who was living in Texas (kids were in Illinois), he had 48 hrs to come pick them up or he'd lose his parental rights too. Seriously? The man was unemployed up until right before this happened......my Mom had to loan him the money to fly back home. He had nothing to do with any of the abuse......and they still copped an attitude with him. I've reported some pretty horrific things over the years. Nothing. They 'might' do a check IF the police drag them into it. (talking 3 states here, not just one) Yet while husband was in the ER friday night.........a family was there across the room from us. CPS worker was trying her best to keep the conversation private but with only curtains between stretchers......and a mom who is NOT happy and is determined everyone is going to here what is going on...you hear just about everything. Seems they brought a toddler in who was injured significantly.....not life threatening, not even enough to stay in hospital......when hospital staff asked what happened the Dad (who brought the injured child along with the sibs in) was honest and told them he'd dozed off accidentally and the toddler had injured himself. He woke immediately and rushed him to the ER. Dad felt horrid. ER staff called the police, who in turn called cps. Now granted I don't know these people. But those kids were clean, well dressed, obviously well fed, well behaved normal young children. Even cps worker admitted (mom brought it up) that parents had never been in trouble with the law, never ever had a report made to cps. Mom kept saying she didn't understand, her kids were well loved, well fed, clean, clothed, played with ect ect ect. And cps worker kept saying there were other "forms" of neglect. wth? Unless there was something going on that I didn't manage to hear in that loud conversation (by the way mom was being very polite, very articulate without being snarky), I got no indication those kids were being neglected. Should dad have fallen asleep? Well no. But it happens. Turns out Mom and dad are working alt shifts trying to hold on to their home and feed their kids and grabbing whatever overtime they can....taking turns watching the kids because they couldn't afford a sitter. It wasn't deliberate, it was an accident. I can't tell you how many times easy child has fallen asleep while studying when she was working full time and Darrin was playing in the livingroom. They could've easily just investigated without removing the kids. But no, decent family doing what they have to in order to survive.....and they lose their kids. I've seen similar where the family has both police records and a cps file that is a book walk out with their kids......with a "might" on the investigation part. Ridiculous. I'll get off my soap box because I literally could go on and on and on with this. I realize their jobs aren't easy and appearances can be deceiving but still. [/QUOTE]
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