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<blockquote data-quote="mrsammler" data-source="post: 441356"><p>Sickandtired -</p><p></p><p>The other parents here will have much more experience-driven wisdom than I can provide, so I'll be brief and begin with the caveat that my input pales in comparison to theirs in terms of useful and wise counsel. But have you read up on personality disorders? My sense is that when this sort of thing starts early and descends into the sort of situation you're describing in late teens or early adulthood, it certainly isn't the product of upbringing and, while drugs are heavily involved, of course, they are more a symptom than a cause. This kind of thorough and consistent (even dogged) descent into terrible trouble seems to me to partake of a personality disorder--ODD if in childhood or teens, and then Conduct Disorder when it begins to include criminality and violating the rights of others. I hesitate to cite ASPD as well, as it's so toxic and despairing a diagnosis (and it takes a trained clinician to arrive at any of these conclusions), but certainly what you describe suggests a pathology of personality rather than just "a drug problem." In any event, my heart goes out to you, and I turn over the thread to the warrior moms here who will have far more and better counsel than I can provide. The gist of my post: it's not your fault; it's not upbringing or some vague parenting error(s) made along the way. As you note, there's something more systematic and pervasive and probably structural at work here. Godspeed to you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mrsammler, post: 441356"] Sickandtired - The other parents here will have much more experience-driven wisdom than I can provide, so I'll be brief and begin with the caveat that my input pales in comparison to theirs in terms of useful and wise counsel. But have you read up on personality disorders? My sense is that when this sort of thing starts early and descends into the sort of situation you're describing in late teens or early adulthood, it certainly isn't the product of upbringing and, while drugs are heavily involved, of course, they are more a symptom than a cause. This kind of thorough and consistent (even dogged) descent into terrible trouble seems to me to partake of a personality disorder--ODD if in childhood or teens, and then Conduct Disorder when it begins to include criminality and violating the rights of others. I hesitate to cite ASPD as well, as it's so toxic and despairing a diagnosis (and it takes a trained clinician to arrive at any of these conclusions), but certainly what you describe suggests a pathology of personality rather than just "a drug problem." In any event, my heart goes out to you, and I turn over the thread to the warrior moms here who will have far more and better counsel than I can provide. The gist of my post: it's not your fault; it's not upbringing or some vague parenting error(s) made along the way. As you note, there's something more systematic and pervasive and probably structural at work here. Godspeed to you. [/QUOTE]
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