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Star! I have an URGENT rattie question - need advice
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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 437510" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>He's middle-aged for a rat, plus he already has crappy quality of life. That leg is deformed anyway, I would be amputating the leg and seeing how he goes. It would greatly delay the tumour's return (if it is going to return) so if, by the time it does return, it becomes a problem - by then he will be a geriatric rat and it will perhaps be easier to let him go.</p><p></p><p>Something we found with rats - some surface sprays seemed to be causing tumours. OK, the rats in that area were a bit more susceptible (being partly immuno-compromised) but it was a worry. So if you need to deal with pests, use insect baits and not sprays or bombs. That should reduce the tumour problems to the minimum possible.</p><p></p><p>We rarely had our rats living past 18 months, it was the pampered ones in the environmentally controlled room that were allowed to live out their days - it was a detailed longevity study, the findings were that rats with some calorie deprivation could live a lot longer. Rats with pituitary removed plus food deprivation lived almost twice as long. I wasn't directly involved in that work, except when they needed extra hands to clean out the rat room. I was involved in removing pituitary glands in rats, though. Tricky, but we could do a rat in five minutes. That's going from anaesthesia to recovery. Another thread was talking about chloroform - we avoided using it, we preferred ether. I believe they use something else now. But we once used chloroform "in a pinch" and found our 99% success rate dropped to below 50%. It made the rats really sick, so we stopped it until we got more ether in. Chucked out the chloroform.</p><p></p><p>Poor little rattie. I hope you can help him.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 437510, member: 1991"] He's middle-aged for a rat, plus he already has crappy quality of life. That leg is deformed anyway, I would be amputating the leg and seeing how he goes. It would greatly delay the tumour's return (if it is going to return) so if, by the time it does return, it becomes a problem - by then he will be a geriatric rat and it will perhaps be easier to let him go. Something we found with rats - some surface sprays seemed to be causing tumours. OK, the rats in that area were a bit more susceptible (being partly immuno-compromised) but it was a worry. So if you need to deal with pests, use insect baits and not sprays or bombs. That should reduce the tumour problems to the minimum possible. We rarely had our rats living past 18 months, it was the pampered ones in the environmentally controlled room that were allowed to live out their days - it was a detailed longevity study, the findings were that rats with some calorie deprivation could live a lot longer. Rats with pituitary removed plus food deprivation lived almost twice as long. I wasn't directly involved in that work, except when they needed extra hands to clean out the rat room. I was involved in removing pituitary glands in rats, though. Tricky, but we could do a rat in five minutes. That's going from anaesthesia to recovery. Another thread was talking about chloroform - we avoided using it, we preferred ether. I believe they use something else now. But we once used chloroform "in a pinch" and found our 99% success rate dropped to below 50%. It made the rats really sick, so we stopped it until we got more ether in. Chucked out the chloroform. Poor little rattie. I hope you can help him. Marg [/QUOTE]
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