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Star! I have an URGENT rattie question - need advice
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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 437604" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>flutter - </p><p></p><p>SO SORRY I didn't get on the board yesterday. I surely would have answered this. I wish you would have called me, thought you had my number from the reunion and I would have been more than glad to talk to you. </p><p></p><p>FIRST Tumors are very hard on rats. They will drag them around, gather sores and then get secondary infections. So since you did the way right thing the first time? I'm glad glad to hear it. As far as the second tumor and the deformed leg? My thoughts go two ways and I want you to be prepared for the thoughts and not tell Wynter. </p><p></p><p>Thought one is to let him be. It's June. He's already been through surgery once and anesthesia the second time could take his life anyway and at this point you are putting him up on quantity of life against quality of life. HARD HARD call. IF he were to make it say three years? Which with his already cancerous record my thought is.....the cancer will most likely appear somewhere else even if you take his little deformed leg. This breaks my heart even more than you know because of my Noodles. Take the tumor from her side - it popped up on her leg. Our vet said you can't ever be sure that you will get all the cells in a rats body. I felt horrid that I put her through the surgery thinking I had done the best for her in trying to give her more life, and basically gave ME a few more months of watching her get weaker, thinner, and miserable. </p><p></p><p>Second shot on this is the more optimistic one and one that if I had no other experience with a rat who had tumors I would go for in a heart beat - have the leg removed and hope for the best wishing for a year or more. </p><p></p><p>Do I think that having the leg removed will make Moose any less of a bully? ABSOLUTELY not. </p><p></p><p>I DO belive that they need to be separated to give the other fella some peace and give Moose his time alone as a dominate rat. TWO bucks can live together in a society IF they are constantly breeding and can get away from each other, but ---two batchelor males that don't have females and are not neutered? Do not generally make the best pets and if they can smell the females? Will do nothing but constantly fight for the "harem". Manny and Albert I believe got along because Albert didn't care about females - he cared about FOOD. As long as he had frozen peas, and hulless popcorn, bluberry yogies, and his "stash" of nummies in his hamock? He really couldn't have cared less about mating - I think it must have been an imbalance of some sort on his part. He even LOVED the cat. Absolutely a one of a kind rat. </p><p></p><p>They certainly do get into your heart don't they? </p><p></p><p>Whatever you decide? It will be the right thing - because there really is NOT a wrong decision when you love them and what to do what you think is right for them. You may have to change mooses name to Tiny Tim and get him a little crutch. </p><p></p><p>If I can be of any other help - PM me - and I'l lbe glad to give you my number you can call or text me about them any time. </p><p></p><p>Hugs -</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 437604, member: 4964"] flutter - SO SORRY I didn't get on the board yesterday. I surely would have answered this. I wish you would have called me, thought you had my number from the reunion and I would have been more than glad to talk to you. FIRST Tumors are very hard on rats. They will drag them around, gather sores and then get secondary infections. So since you did the way right thing the first time? I'm glad glad to hear it. As far as the second tumor and the deformed leg? My thoughts go two ways and I want you to be prepared for the thoughts and not tell Wynter. Thought one is to let him be. It's June. He's already been through surgery once and anesthesia the second time could take his life anyway and at this point you are putting him up on quantity of life against quality of life. HARD HARD call. IF he were to make it say three years? Which with his already cancerous record my thought is.....the cancer will most likely appear somewhere else even if you take his little deformed leg. This breaks my heart even more than you know because of my Noodles. Take the tumor from her side - it popped up on her leg. Our vet said you can't ever be sure that you will get all the cells in a rats body. I felt horrid that I put her through the surgery thinking I had done the best for her in trying to give her more life, and basically gave ME a few more months of watching her get weaker, thinner, and miserable. Second shot on this is the more optimistic one and one that if I had no other experience with a rat who had tumors I would go for in a heart beat - have the leg removed and hope for the best wishing for a year or more. Do I think that having the leg removed will make Moose any less of a bully? ABSOLUTELY not. I DO belive that they need to be separated to give the other fella some peace and give Moose his time alone as a dominate rat. TWO bucks can live together in a society IF they are constantly breeding and can get away from each other, but ---two batchelor males that don't have females and are not neutered? Do not generally make the best pets and if they can smell the females? Will do nothing but constantly fight for the "harem". Manny and Albert I believe got along because Albert didn't care about females - he cared about FOOD. As long as he had frozen peas, and hulless popcorn, bluberry yogies, and his "stash" of nummies in his hamock? He really couldn't have cared less about mating - I think it must have been an imbalance of some sort on his part. He even LOVED the cat. Absolutely a one of a kind rat. They certainly do get into your heart don't they? Whatever you decide? It will be the right thing - because there really is NOT a wrong decision when you love them and what to do what you think is right for them. You may have to change mooses name to Tiny Tim and get him a little crutch. If I can be of any other help - PM me - and I'l lbe glad to give you my number you can call or text me about them any time. Hugs - [/QUOTE]
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