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<blockquote data-quote="dreamer" data-source="post: 153658" data-attributes="member: 1697"><p>I do not know how many times my kids brought home homework that was NOT repetition or reinforcement of something techer taught them, but rather it was new material to be learned. Many times my kids had difficulty grasping NEW material via homework and there were lots of times I tried to be there beside them to help- but even I did not have enough info in textbook supplied to be able to DO the asignment sent home. Those times, it was NOT that my kids were not made to sit and DO homework....we sat here often 4-5-6 HOURS trying........and unable, NOT becuz my kids did not WANT to do it, and NOT becuz they did not TRY. and not becuz I was not willing to be there trying to help, but becuz the assignment itself either did not come with needed accompanying materials, or becuz the assignment was vague, or there were no directions at all, or it was some new concept foreign to my child......those are times when I would say, if my child and say half his classmates all were stumped- then yes, The Teacher had accountability for the kids being unable to compplete the task at hand. If more than half the class fails, the teacher should have to re assess her method for that lesson. </p><p></p><p>If a child does not do homework becuz they do not bother to do homework, that is an entirely different story. If one child or 3 out of a whole calss fails, that is not the same as half the whole class failing.</p><p></p><p>Do not think that just becuz parents are not college educated that they do not value education. Especially in these economic times, families can be haveing serious major difficulty finncially, and ummmmm......things may not be how they seem on the surface. A highly educated prents can still have financial difficulties, health concerns, a sick parent, a sick sspouse, another child who is handicapped or specialneeds......daily living for many families can be quite difficult and time consuming. even in a family that does place a high value on education might be in midst of a life crisis that creates what might seem to someone else to be a lack of value on education. when my difficult child was at her peak worst in school, I was at IEP meetings almost 3 times a week for approx 3 hours at a time........altho my younger son was dyslexic and his schol refused to follow HIS iep and provide HIS word processor or audio books, and I was bust at dtrs school and was not here to read my sons material to HIM or to scribe his assignments. when I was at the city teaching hospital with my son for almost 18 months due to his eye injry, I was not here to sign off on my PCs parent obligations per her school---such as administering spelling and math tests weekly, signing off on her reading log nitely......it did not mean I did not value education, but I am only one person and my other child was in immediate crisis and my husband was in a different hospital in ICU. </p><p>The parent admisistered spelling and math tests and signing off on reading log was consiered "homework" and lack of ME doing those things showed up as easy child failing to complete her homework. </p><p></p><p>Then there were things like major long term projects that teachers handed out long rubrics, and parents had to sign off that THEY would do ALL the checking of the project along the way for the first 5 weeks, and at week 6, the prohject would be turned in to teacher for grading, BUT parents also had o first submit a final grade. Imagine my horror as well as ALL my sons cub scout dens parents horror when we got the final grades and found out only then that we had ALL done it ALL "wrong" and all 15 boys got an F? The teacher told every single one of us 15 parents that WE apparently did NOT read the instructions properly. 6 week project, .......nope- that is NOT parental lack of value of education, and THOSE teachers NEEDED to be held to some level of accountability, if FIFTEEN parents and 15 kids ALL thought they had done as assigned. </p><p></p><p>ANyway, maybe YOU do hold yourself accountable, BUT that does not mean there are not teachers out there who do not behave differently than you do. </p><p></p><p>I am a nurse, and I KNOW there are some very crummy nurses out there. Heck, Fri I was appalled to sit next to one at a seminar, shocked to listen to that school nurse talk with the lady next to her, she was a very poor model of a nurse, in my opinion, and she made me quite upset to think she dares to call herself a nurse. Just becuz I feel I am a good nurse, does not mean I will simply assume all other nurses are also doing a great job. ANd nope, I would not defend her- what she said, how she bhaved was wrong. There are good people and not so good people in all professions, in all walks of life. Maybe you DO hold yourself to a better standard than the people this article was alludeing to. </p><p></p><p>My difficult child could not attend after school tutoring when offered becuz she had so many clinical appts with therapist, psychiatrist, group therapy, she had appts every single day after school till bedtime.......</p><p>My son could not go to after school tutoring either.....and if a child cannot read well, or cannot write well, or some other spec need, sometimes standard tutoring is not a big help for them, anyway. My sons teacher tried to tutor him, but she wanted to simply sit beside him and hand him more books he could not see or read..... and transportation can be a problem that can keep kids from coming in after school.....or fact that maybe parent is entrusting kids to a babysitter and babysitter cannot work things out for transportation for the kids. That does not mean the parent does not value education. It might justmean a singleparent is overworked already trying to keep a roof over their heads. or------maybe the parent does not understand the homework, - maybe the parent is not able to read.or read well enough.......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dreamer, post: 153658, member: 1697"] I do not know how many times my kids brought home homework that was NOT repetition or reinforcement of something techer taught them, but rather it was new material to be learned. Many times my kids had difficulty grasping NEW material via homework and there were lots of times I tried to be there beside them to help- but even I did not have enough info in textbook supplied to be able to DO the asignment sent home. Those times, it was NOT that my kids were not made to sit and DO homework....we sat here often 4-5-6 HOURS trying........and unable, NOT becuz my kids did not WANT to do it, and NOT becuz they did not TRY. and not becuz I was not willing to be there trying to help, but becuz the assignment itself either did not come with needed accompanying materials, or becuz the assignment was vague, or there were no directions at all, or it was some new concept foreign to my child......those are times when I would say, if my child and say half his classmates all were stumped- then yes, The Teacher had accountability for the kids being unable to compplete the task at hand. If more than half the class fails, the teacher should have to re assess her method for that lesson. If a child does not do homework becuz they do not bother to do homework, that is an entirely different story. If one child or 3 out of a whole calss fails, that is not the same as half the whole class failing. Do not think that just becuz parents are not college educated that they do not value education. Especially in these economic times, families can be haveing serious major difficulty finncially, and ummmmm......things may not be how they seem on the surface. A highly educated prents can still have financial difficulties, health concerns, a sick parent, a sick sspouse, another child who is handicapped or specialneeds......daily living for many families can be quite difficult and time consuming. even in a family that does place a high value on education might be in midst of a life crisis that creates what might seem to someone else to be a lack of value on education. when my difficult child was at her peak worst in school, I was at IEP meetings almost 3 times a week for approx 3 hours at a time........altho my younger son was dyslexic and his schol refused to follow HIS iep and provide HIS word processor or audio books, and I was bust at dtrs school and was not here to read my sons material to HIM or to scribe his assignments. when I was at the city teaching hospital with my son for almost 18 months due to his eye injry, I was not here to sign off on my PCs parent obligations per her school---such as administering spelling and math tests weekly, signing off on her reading log nitely......it did not mean I did not value education, but I am only one person and my other child was in immediate crisis and my husband was in a different hospital in ICU. The parent admisistered spelling and math tests and signing off on reading log was consiered "homework" and lack of ME doing those things showed up as easy child failing to complete her homework. Then there were things like major long term projects that teachers handed out long rubrics, and parents had to sign off that THEY would do ALL the checking of the project along the way for the first 5 weeks, and at week 6, the prohject would be turned in to teacher for grading, BUT parents also had o first submit a final grade. Imagine my horror as well as ALL my sons cub scout dens parents horror when we got the final grades and found out only then that we had ALL done it ALL "wrong" and all 15 boys got an F? The teacher told every single one of us 15 parents that WE apparently did NOT read the instructions properly. 6 week project, .......nope- that is NOT parental lack of value of education, and THOSE teachers NEEDED to be held to some level of accountability, if FIFTEEN parents and 15 kids ALL thought they had done as assigned. ANyway, maybe YOU do hold yourself accountable, BUT that does not mean there are not teachers out there who do not behave differently than you do. I am a nurse, and I KNOW there are some very crummy nurses out there. Heck, Fri I was appalled to sit next to one at a seminar, shocked to listen to that school nurse talk with the lady next to her, she was a very poor model of a nurse, in my opinion, and she made me quite upset to think she dares to call herself a nurse. Just becuz I feel I am a good nurse, does not mean I will simply assume all other nurses are also doing a great job. ANd nope, I would not defend her- what she said, how she bhaved was wrong. There are good people and not so good people in all professions, in all walks of life. Maybe you DO hold yourself to a better standard than the people this article was alludeing to. My difficult child could not attend after school tutoring when offered becuz she had so many clinical appts with therapist, psychiatrist, group therapy, she had appts every single day after school till bedtime....... My son could not go to after school tutoring either.....and if a child cannot read well, or cannot write well, or some other spec need, sometimes standard tutoring is not a big help for them, anyway. My sons teacher tried to tutor him, but she wanted to simply sit beside him and hand him more books he could not see or read..... and transportation can be a problem that can keep kids from coming in after school.....or fact that maybe parent is entrusting kids to a babysitter and babysitter cannot work things out for transportation for the kids. That does not mean the parent does not value education. It might justmean a singleparent is overworked already trying to keep a roof over their heads. or------maybe the parent does not understand the homework, - maybe the parent is not able to read.or read well enough....... [/QUOTE]
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