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<blockquote data-quote="nerfherder" data-source="post: 663912" data-attributes="member: 15907"><p>2. mi-ni tanoshimi o takumazu</p><p></p><p>Tokitsu: Do not seek pleasure for its own sake</p><p>Wilson: Do not scheme for physical pleasure.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Mi: "the body" "oneself"</p><p>Tanoshimi: "pleasure" "enjoyment"</p><p>Takumazu: negative form of the verb takumu, which means "to elaborate, look for a good means"</p><p></p><p>On the face of it, this particular precept is an absolute negation of the idea of Indulgence. Indulgence (as opposed to compulsion) is the idea of a joyous celebration of the senses; choosing to enjoy good food, good drink, good company, whatever we would engage in, in full awareness and consciously present in the moment, what brings us joy. </p><p></p><p>While I was actively training in Hapkido, I wrote the following:</p><p>S<em>ome level of self-discipline is required to make the mental shift to "every minute training" (as my instructor likes to suggest).</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Yet for me, class time, stretch time, practice time is something where I experience feelings that go beyond merely pleasant. Enjoy it? It's reaching the level of a passion for me. Am I seeking pleasure for its own sake as I train? I am not seeking pleasure, but the seeking, the finding, and sometimes the not-finding give me a joy that goes beyond merely "pleasant."</em></p><p></p><p><em>Tokitsu mentions the views of others who consider Musashi's extreme pronouncements on this as masochistic in nature. Who is renouncing pleasure? I certainly am not. A good many pleasant things are pleasant - but do not give me the sheer cutting joy of training. Am I eventually going to end up focusing on that which is essential? Is that the inevitable outcome of this Work I find myself doing?</em></p><p></p><p><em>This in the author's notes caught my eye: "There is old age in youth, death in life, hatred in love, separation in meeting, bitterness in pleasure, and so on."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>I don't have a way to explain the gut feeling there, but is it approaching an understanding of the inside-out spinning circle of our own creation, destruction and recreation of the Self?</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nerfherder, post: 663912, member: 15907"] 2. mi-ni tanoshimi o takumazu Tokitsu: Do not seek pleasure for its own sake Wilson: Do not scheme for physical pleasure. Mi: "the body" "oneself" Tanoshimi: "pleasure" "enjoyment" Takumazu: negative form of the verb takumu, which means "to elaborate, look for a good means" On the face of it, this particular precept is an absolute negation of the idea of Indulgence. Indulgence (as opposed to compulsion) is the idea of a joyous celebration of the senses; choosing to enjoy good food, good drink, good company, whatever we would engage in, in full awareness and consciously present in the moment, what brings us joy. While I was actively training in Hapkido, I wrote the following: S[I]ome level of self-discipline is required to make the mental shift to "every minute training" (as my instructor likes to suggest). Yet for me, class time, stretch time, practice time is something where I experience feelings that go beyond merely pleasant. Enjoy it? It's reaching the level of a passion for me. Am I seeking pleasure for its own sake as I train? I am not seeking pleasure, but the seeking, the finding, and sometimes the not-finding give me a joy that goes beyond merely "pleasant."[/I] [I]Tokitsu mentions the views of others who consider Musashi's extreme pronouncements on this as masochistic in nature. Who is renouncing pleasure? I certainly am not. A good many pleasant things are pleasant - but do not give me the sheer cutting joy of training. Am I eventually going to end up focusing on that which is essential? Is that the inevitable outcome of this Work I find myself doing?[/I] [I]This in the author's notes caught my eye: "There is old age in youth, death in life, hatred in love, separation in meeting, bitterness in pleasure, and so on." I don't have a way to explain the gut feeling there, but is it approaching an understanding of the inside-out spinning circle of our own creation, destruction and recreation of the Self?[/I] [/QUOTE]
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