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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 616528" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I would be VERY careful about asking questions about the lab BEFORE trusting ANY results. I say this from personal experience. I am a pain mgmt patient and have been for years. I take my medications as prescribed and do NOT ever abuse them in any way. The aspie in me makes me uber safety conscious and a dad who taught jr high made me terrified of illegal drug use of any kind.</p><p></p><p>About five yrs ago I had some sort of withdrawal that caused seizures due to not keeping medications down for several days due to a severe migraine. I lost three days, totally have no memory. Woke up in the hospital being told I overdosed on meth. I have not even SEEN meth, much less touched it. the hospital doctor would not even speak to me, nor would she call my doctor or my pain mgmt specialist. She knew they would kick her off the case as she is the worst doctor in our hospital, bar NONE.</p><p></p><p>My pain doctor saw the lab reports the hospital ran and laughed. Said they made every single possible mistake because the doctor's notes were to find meth in the samples, not find what the patient was taking. He explained how sensitive the tests are, and how specialized the lab must be if you are taking any rx medications of any kind, because they can and do USUALLY cause false readings esp false positives. His office does a presumptive test to see if you have what you should present, and the temperature of the sample. Then they send it out of state to a lab that does ONLY drug tests, no other lab tests. WHY? the tests are so specialized now that you need labs that specialize or you end up iwth results that are garbage. </p><p></p><p>The doctor who did these tests in the hospital lost her license a year ago for turning patients in to the DEA for rewards when they did not take any drugs of any kind. She and a few lb people were cooking up false positives and then finding ways to get rewards for turning her patients in.. Total hIPPAA violation and violation of many other things too. I was far from the first person to wake in restraints due to her 'care' and my doctor said that with-o her 'care' I would never have lost those days. I would have lost maybe 12 hours but she gave me medications to keep me out and to help her get the results she wanted. He had to have his lab analyze what she did to be sure she didn't give me meth or a similar drug to get her results, nad he showed me in my records what she gave m e that was far from appropriate for my condition. </p><p></p><p>Ask the lab how much they spcialize in drug tests an how reliable their results are. with one rx medication it should not be too off, but if he takes more than one it could be a problem. Then go with your gut. Kno that meetings are often a great place to find drugs, but that it is only your son's responsibility if he takes them. Relapes are incredibly common and are to be expected. he can get back up and start over if he wants to get clean.</p><p></p><p>Are YOU going to meetings? it will help you immensely and it will also help him immensely if you do. Think of it as helping him with homework. You would spend an hour doing that any time he wanted, wouldn't you? this is more important, and truly WILL help him just as much as it will help you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 616528, member: 1233"] I would be VERY careful about asking questions about the lab BEFORE trusting ANY results. I say this from personal experience. I am a pain mgmt patient and have been for years. I take my medications as prescribed and do NOT ever abuse them in any way. The aspie in me makes me uber safety conscious and a dad who taught jr high made me terrified of illegal drug use of any kind. About five yrs ago I had some sort of withdrawal that caused seizures due to not keeping medications down for several days due to a severe migraine. I lost three days, totally have no memory. Woke up in the hospital being told I overdosed on meth. I have not even SEEN meth, much less touched it. the hospital doctor would not even speak to me, nor would she call my doctor or my pain mgmt specialist. She knew they would kick her off the case as she is the worst doctor in our hospital, bar NONE. My pain doctor saw the lab reports the hospital ran and laughed. Said they made every single possible mistake because the doctor's notes were to find meth in the samples, not find what the patient was taking. He explained how sensitive the tests are, and how specialized the lab must be if you are taking any rx medications of any kind, because they can and do USUALLY cause false readings esp false positives. His office does a presumptive test to see if you have what you should present, and the temperature of the sample. Then they send it out of state to a lab that does ONLY drug tests, no other lab tests. WHY? the tests are so specialized now that you need labs that specialize or you end up iwth results that are garbage. The doctor who did these tests in the hospital lost her license a year ago for turning patients in to the DEA for rewards when they did not take any drugs of any kind. She and a few lb people were cooking up false positives and then finding ways to get rewards for turning her patients in.. Total hIPPAA violation and violation of many other things too. I was far from the first person to wake in restraints due to her 'care' and my doctor said that with-o her 'care' I would never have lost those days. I would have lost maybe 12 hours but she gave me medications to keep me out and to help her get the results she wanted. He had to have his lab analyze what she did to be sure she didn't give me meth or a similar drug to get her results, nad he showed me in my records what she gave m e that was far from appropriate for my condition. Ask the lab how much they spcialize in drug tests an how reliable their results are. with one rx medication it should not be too off, but if he takes more than one it could be a problem. Then go with your gut. Kno that meetings are often a great place to find drugs, but that it is only your son's responsibility if he takes them. Relapes are incredibly common and are to be expected. he can get back up and start over if he wants to get clean. Are YOU going to meetings? it will help you immensely and it will also help him immensely if you do. Think of it as helping him with homework. You would spend an hour doing that any time he wanted, wouldn't you? this is more important, and truly WILL help him just as much as it will help you. [/QUOTE]
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