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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 392307" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>One more thought - you may have to document that you have in fact shown the evidence (ie the film of child threatening self-harm) to the psychiatric hospital team. So you may have to email the video clip. If you have to, do so. You could even add, "Here is a copy of the clip I showed you all at the meeting." You also may need to find your own legal representation, preferably someone experienced in this area. Yu can bet the psychiatric hospital will call in their lawyers when you begin to mention legal liability if she follows through on her threats at home. I know lawyers are expensive, but if it does the job and can make these people treat the girl and not simply wash their hands of her...</p><p></p><p>And DaisyFace, it's not just a US thing. It is a bit more complex here, because treatment here is covered by national health insurance but administered by individual hospitals. Our national insurance is covered by the Health Insurance Commission who have been known to go for the jugular with any service provider who "over-services" in any way. So they tend to err on the side of extreme caution. But I have been known to directly contact Health Insurance Commission and get a clearance. It makes the doctors very nervous, but if I'm armed with correspondence from them authorising the doctor to order the tests, then NOT ordering the tests can also lead to the doctor being investigated. And these guys are like the Spanish Inquisition, doctors do not want to come to their attention in any way because they never let go. You guys don't have the Health Insurance Commission but you do have congressmen and the media. But like any weapon, it has to be used at the right time and with confidence. There's no point brandishing a broadsword if you're not prepared to use it when it comes down to it. And there's no point saying, "I have a broadsword," if you're not strong enough to lift it! Which is when you may need to hire your own mercenary... to keep the analogy going.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 392307, member: 1991"] One more thought - you may have to document that you have in fact shown the evidence (ie the film of child threatening self-harm) to the psychiatric hospital team. So you may have to email the video clip. If you have to, do so. You could even add, "Here is a copy of the clip I showed you all at the meeting." You also may need to find your own legal representation, preferably someone experienced in this area. Yu can bet the psychiatric hospital will call in their lawyers when you begin to mention legal liability if she follows through on her threats at home. I know lawyers are expensive, but if it does the job and can make these people treat the girl and not simply wash their hands of her... And DaisyFace, it's not just a US thing. It is a bit more complex here, because treatment here is covered by national health insurance but administered by individual hospitals. Our national insurance is covered by the Health Insurance Commission who have been known to go for the jugular with any service provider who "over-services" in any way. So they tend to err on the side of extreme caution. But I have been known to directly contact Health Insurance Commission and get a clearance. It makes the doctors very nervous, but if I'm armed with correspondence from them authorising the doctor to order the tests, then NOT ordering the tests can also lead to the doctor being investigated. And these guys are like the Spanish Inquisition, doctors do not want to come to their attention in any way because they never let go. You guys don't have the Health Insurance Commission but you do have congressmen and the media. But like any weapon, it has to be used at the right time and with confidence. There's no point brandishing a broadsword if you're not prepared to use it when it comes down to it. And there's no point saying, "I have a broadsword," if you're not strong enough to lift it! Which is when you may need to hire your own mercenary... to keep the analogy going. Marg [/QUOTE]
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