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This is just getting too much...laypeople diagnosing others (I am guilty too)
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<blockquote data-quote="SuZir" data-source="post: 653084" data-attributes="member: 14557"><p>Recognizing patterns in other people's behaviour can be valuable. At times so is understanding that those kind of patterns often match with certain other patterns or certain diagnosis. When dealing with that kind of people, knowing all that may give us a fair warning or may help us to relate certain behaviour. Let's take a developmental example: It is helpful for any parent to understand, why their two year old child suddenly seems to start their every sentence with the word 'no.' Or may throw extremely emotional tantrums over very small things. Understanding that behavioural pattern, why that person is behaving like that and what other type of behavioural patterns may be in store for you in coming months, helps the parent to relate on that behaviour and take appropriate actions.</p><p></p><p>But where diagnosing 'terrible twos' for your two-year-old is rather easy, and you are likely to have all the facts, diagnosing other adult, or even your own teen child, with psychiatric diagnosis is totally different thing. You likely do not have all the facts. You are familiar with just one role that the person in question has. You often do not know how they relate to other people in other environments. And while it is easy to read all kinds of lists of symptoms, we, as laymen, rarely have an accurate understanding in what those symptoms really mean. How severe they have to be to count? Or what means that common part of these diagnosis that state that these symptoms should be present in many settings and they should cause significant difficulty to functioning. For example, we all have some narcissistic traits if we really do some deep soul searching. And under certain circumstances most of us are likely to behave in very selfish manner. Most of us still do not meet the criteria for NPD.</p><p></p><p>It takes lots of clinical experience to know who much is significant, which amount of something is normal and which is abnormal. And lots of education before that to understand which type of issues may manifest in certain ways in person's behaviour. Like Jabber pointed out, for example person with Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) and person with social anxiety may behave in remarkable similar way in certain situations and the actual cause for that behaviour may be total opposite.</p><p></p><p>I know I have committed some extremely selfish actions in my life and if you would pick those things out, and you don't need to lie at all, concentrate on those and then tell some other real things about me, that would support that kind of image, it would be rather easy to portray me as a narcissist or something like that. That portray would leave most of my character out, but it wouldn't be an actual lie, just maybe a lie by omission.</p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">PS. If you have to find out the NPD version of me, just ask my mother in law <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuZir, post: 653084, member: 14557"] Recognizing patterns in other people's behaviour can be valuable. At times so is understanding that those kind of patterns often match with certain other patterns or certain diagnosis. When dealing with that kind of people, knowing all that may give us a fair warning or may help us to relate certain behaviour. Let's take a developmental example: It is helpful for any parent to understand, why their two year old child suddenly seems to start their every sentence with the word 'no.' Or may throw extremely emotional tantrums over very small things. Understanding that behavioural pattern, why that person is behaving like that and what other type of behavioural patterns may be in store for you in coming months, helps the parent to relate on that behaviour and take appropriate actions. But where diagnosing 'terrible twos' for your two-year-old is rather easy, and you are likely to have all the facts, diagnosing other adult, or even your own teen child, with psychiatric diagnosis is totally different thing. You likely do not have all the facts. You are familiar with just one role that the person in question has. You often do not know how they relate to other people in other environments. And while it is easy to read all kinds of lists of symptoms, we, as laymen, rarely have an accurate understanding in what those symptoms really mean. How severe they have to be to count? Or what means that common part of these diagnosis that state that these symptoms should be present in many settings and they should cause significant difficulty to functioning. For example, we all have some narcissistic traits if we really do some deep soul searching. And under certain circumstances most of us are likely to behave in very selfish manner. Most of us still do not meet the criteria for NPD. It takes lots of clinical experience to know who much is significant, which amount of something is normal and which is abnormal. And lots of education before that to understand which type of issues may manifest in certain ways in person's behaviour. Like Jabber pointed out, for example person with Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) and person with social anxiety may behave in remarkable similar way in certain situations and the actual cause for that behaviour may be total opposite. I know I have committed some extremely selfish actions in my life and if you would pick those things out, and you don't need to lie at all, concentrate on those and then tell some other real things about me, that would support that kind of image, it would be rather easy to portray me as a narcissist or something like that. That portray would leave most of my character out, but it wouldn't be an actual lie, just maybe a lie by omission. [SIZE=1] PS. If you have to find out the NPD version of me, just ask my mother in law ;)[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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