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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 655266" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>My guess is he thinks the kid needs a psychiatrist not a psychologist and he won't go. Anyone with those serious issues needs medication and a therapist can't do anything for him if he won't comply.</p><p></p><p>Of course, if that is actually what happened and he was not referred to somebody else, one has to wonder If he did not offer an alternative, I would certainly keep trying to find help, but I'd go with the psychiatrist and skip the others, whether the kid is medication-phobic or not. This young man needs medical intervention. In the U.S. that is basically what is used...if extreme sometimes ECT, but that is a last resort. If the young man said he would not try medicine, there is nowhere else to send him most likely.For pity sakes, in other countries kids use pot to self-medicate. in my opinion it's better to use carefully monitored psychiatric medication. There is no stigma in the U.S against that. If carefully monitored, you do not turn into a zombie. If it's the wrong medication for you, you switch until something clicks. Depression is a biological problem, usually inherited.</p><p></p><p>Without my medication, I'd be dead. That is not an exaggeration. It might not be a bad idea to tell him he had to see a psychiatrist and try medication or you can't help him and he has to leave. He sounds very suicidal and that requires intensive intervention. He may also have other mental health issues, beyond depression, that needs diagnosing and treating. It is not normal for an average looking kid to think he is that repulsive. He needs an evaluation, not just talk therapy. That never helped me at all.</p><p></p><p>Let the psychiatrist take charge of his treatment and tell you his diagnosis and what he thinks he needs, then let your son decide to try to get better or stay as he is. A ton of psychologists with no medications has not helped him. He needs to up the ante of his treatment. He can't keep living thinking he is nothing...it is NOT true but it is a very depressive way of thinking...and dangerous.</p><p></p><p>Interestingly, many medication-phobic patients have no trouble using illegal drugs to make them feel better. You don't want your son to go there one day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 655266, member: 1550"] My guess is he thinks the kid needs a psychiatrist not a psychologist and he won't go. Anyone with those serious issues needs medication and a therapist can't do anything for him if he won't comply. Of course, if that is actually what happened and he was not referred to somebody else, one has to wonder If he did not offer an alternative, I would certainly keep trying to find help, but I'd go with the psychiatrist and skip the others, whether the kid is medication-phobic or not. This young man needs medical intervention. In the U.S. that is basically what is used...if extreme sometimes ECT, but that is a last resort. If the young man said he would not try medicine, there is nowhere else to send him most likely.For pity sakes, in other countries kids use pot to self-medicate. in my opinion it's better to use carefully monitored psychiatric medication. There is no stigma in the U.S against that. If carefully monitored, you do not turn into a zombie. If it's the wrong medication for you, you switch until something clicks. Depression is a biological problem, usually inherited. Without my medication, I'd be dead. That is not an exaggeration. It might not be a bad idea to tell him he had to see a psychiatrist and try medication or you can't help him and he has to leave. He sounds very suicidal and that requires intensive intervention. He may also have other mental health issues, beyond depression, that needs diagnosing and treating. It is not normal for an average looking kid to think he is that repulsive. He needs an evaluation, not just talk therapy. That never helped me at all. Let the psychiatrist take charge of his treatment and tell you his diagnosis and what he thinks he needs, then let your son decide to try to get better or stay as he is. A ton of psychologists with no medications has not helped him. He needs to up the ante of his treatment. He can't keep living thinking he is nothing...it is NOT true but it is a very depressive way of thinking...and dangerous. Interestingly, many medication-phobic patients have no trouble using illegal drugs to make them feel better. You don't want your son to go there one day. [/QUOTE]
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