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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 388383" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>I get what you're saying but my concerned is more in ther area of HS (after release from Department of Juvenile Justice) helping him prepare for college- not in the courses they allow him (they finally got that covered) but in linking him with college admission requirements, taking the tests required to get in, linking him with financial aid apps, and so forth. It has been way too long since I was in HS to remember all they do plus I missed a lot of it because I graduated after 3 years so wasn't even in HS the fourth year when they do most of that. But I do know that when a HS sees a kid as college bound, they help link them to the things to start the process of applying and having typical college entry requirements. If they can list "link student to vo tech" they can list "link student to XXXX" that would be beneficial in suupporting his college goals.</p><p></p><p>Of course I am aware he might not get in, but if he has a chance then not providing him the same "links" they would most college bound students would almost kill wghatever chance he did have. I'm not asking that we address whether or not difficult child should have accommodations in college, should he actually get there. Basicly this IEP looks like they are giving him what is sensible and reasonable to keep him eligible for the advanced diploma but when it comes to "career day", they are saying take him to vo/tech, not college. If the only reason they are doing that is because they don't think he'll actually go or because of statistics, that just isn't a good enough reason to me. That's almost forcing him to become another statistic instead of encouraging him NOT to. </p><p></p><p>I'm fine if they want to leave those things in but are willing to add in things to actually help him link to college, too. I'm just not sure what specifically to ask for. That was where my question lies. I'll google and see if I can come up with anything.</p><p></p><p>JJJ- it might appear all the same, but difficult child was not convicted as an adult so the law is written "convicted of an offense that would be a felony if committed as an adult". However, they do not entirely expunge records of juveniles with these types of offenses in this state. But they aren't made public unless the juvenile was convicted as an adult- difficult child would have to sign a release form in order for his juvenile court records to be released- say to a potential employer. That has really nothing to do with college. Any college he might apply for will know simply by reviewing his previous school records. They just won't know specifics of his convictions unless difficult child tells them, but he'd probably be better off if he did tell them, assuming it actually gets to that point.</p><p></p><p>What happens with difficult child after HS is all dependent on how he does the remaining 18+ mos of HS after his release next year. If he actually does stay out of legal trouble and keeps school work up, he would have the background required for college entry. If he doesn't, it won't matter because he'll be recommitted again. So the difference to me is what "tag" his next HS will put on him which pretty much determines how they treat difficult child in daily interactions as well as any incident. difficult child will pick up on that pretty quickly and start wearing whatever label they put on him, true to his form. If they don't treat him like he has a chance, I can't see him doing any differently than he did before.</p><p></p><p>While a college probably can justify not accepting him due to his record, I'm not aware of any law that says he can't go to a college. I'm pretty sure he still could if he makes it the last 2 years of high school in the ccommunity. (Big, big IF, I know.) Department of Juvenile Justice doesn't have him categorized as a serious or violent offender and he's not ever committed any of the major offenses that schools worry the most about- sexual offenses, for instance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 388383, member: 3699"] I get what you're saying but my concerned is more in ther area of HS (after release from Department of Juvenile Justice) helping him prepare for college- not in the courses they allow him (they finally got that covered) but in linking him with college admission requirements, taking the tests required to get in, linking him with financial aid apps, and so forth. It has been way too long since I was in HS to remember all they do plus I missed a lot of it because I graduated after 3 years so wasn't even in HS the fourth year when they do most of that. But I do know that when a HS sees a kid as college bound, they help link them to the things to start the process of applying and having typical college entry requirements. If they can list "link student to vo tech" they can list "link student to XXXX" that would be beneficial in suupporting his college goals. Of course I am aware he might not get in, but if he has a chance then not providing him the same "links" they would most college bound students would almost kill wghatever chance he did have. I'm not asking that we address whether or not difficult child should have accommodations in college, should he actually get there. Basicly this IEP looks like they are giving him what is sensible and reasonable to keep him eligible for the advanced diploma but when it comes to "career day", they are saying take him to vo/tech, not college. If the only reason they are doing that is because they don't think he'll actually go or because of statistics, that just isn't a good enough reason to me. That's almost forcing him to become another statistic instead of encouraging him NOT to. I'm fine if they want to leave those things in but are willing to add in things to actually help him link to college, too. I'm just not sure what specifically to ask for. That was where my question lies. I'll google and see if I can come up with anything. JJJ- it might appear all the same, but difficult child was not convicted as an adult so the law is written "convicted of an offense that would be a felony if committed as an adult". However, they do not entirely expunge records of juveniles with these types of offenses in this state. But they aren't made public unless the juvenile was convicted as an adult- difficult child would have to sign a release form in order for his juvenile court records to be released- say to a potential employer. That has really nothing to do with college. Any college he might apply for will know simply by reviewing his previous school records. They just won't know specifics of his convictions unless difficult child tells them, but he'd probably be better off if he did tell them, assuming it actually gets to that point. What happens with difficult child after HS is all dependent on how he does the remaining 18+ mos of HS after his release next year. If he actually does stay out of legal trouble and keeps school work up, he would have the background required for college entry. If he doesn't, it won't matter because he'll be recommitted again. So the difference to me is what "tag" his next HS will put on him which pretty much determines how they treat difficult child in daily interactions as well as any incident. difficult child will pick up on that pretty quickly and start wearing whatever label they put on him, true to his form. If they don't treat him like he has a chance, I can't see him doing any differently than he did before. While a college probably can justify not accepting him due to his record, I'm not aware of any law that says he can't go to a college. I'm pretty sure he still could if he makes it the last 2 years of high school in the ccommunity. (Big, big IF, I know.) Department of Juvenile Justice doesn't have him categorized as a serious or violent offender and he's not ever committed any of the major offenses that schools worry the most about- sexual offenses, for instance. [/QUOTE]
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