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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 325441" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Audrey, you have already demonstrated that you can handle this sort of situation with tact, sensitivity and an eye for positive outcomes for everybody.</p><p></p><p>You've got good instincts for your own feelings too. Hang on to those.</p><p></p><p>I would thank this woman for hr input, the wraparound services are a good idea and a multi-pronged approach is a very good thing to do. But this will not in any way reduce the need for the school to follow through too, or your efforts will be wasged.</p><p></p><p>The multidiscpliniary approach is the way to go. And in Australia (and I thought in the US) Special Education gfunding to cover the IEP costs comes from the Federal Government, not out of the school's pocket. If the child is removed from the school and there is still half a year of funding left to spend, then the school has to pay it back. Otherwise, the costs are covered.</p><p></p><p>You will find that the people who are responsible for making the decisions that will cost money (even if it's not their money) sometimes get better 'kudos' for not having to spend money. For example, when we applied for funding support the woman they sent out to help assess, did her utmost to downgrade his perceived needs so she could justify a lower amount. It was is if coming in cheaper for the year got her brownie points at senior level. Certainly she made some very bad decisions for difficult child 3.</p><p></p><p>But if you think there is a need, you have to make the case and push the paperwork through.</p><p></p><p>Educaiton staff can do a great deal, but in certain areas their hands are tied. For example they can see a child who they are sure would benefit form an IEP, but technicall are not permitted to approach the parents and suggest this.</p><p>I've had a teacher or two over the years come to me quietly and say, "There is a parent whose child needs help, the parent applied but the officials denied the claim. We know this often happens and are sure it will get approved on appeal, but this mother is scared to appeal because she feels she isn't skilled enough to write the letter. We're not allowed to help her. Can oyu help her? And don't tell the officials I spoke to you about this, it has to be coming from the parent only, not from any teacher."</p><p></p><p>So we got together, wrote the letter and the child got his funding back. The mother was amazed and delighted - a bit of a difficult child hrself, she was taught to agree with her "betters". which included self-proclaimed educational experts who told her when her son dind't need funding any more despite hr own instincts screaming otherwise. After all, they are the educated ones, they have the positions in authority, she's only a mum, what would she know?</p><p></p><p>It's not a perfect system by any means. and even the best school will have problems.</p><p></p><p>If you send in the formal request for an IEP, make sure there is a paer trail (you could email it, then your email out box will have acopy of what you sent and when). Then next time you talk to this 'fool' (we're not using the word idiot, because we're better than her) you simply say, "I thought about what you said. I've begun to organsie the wraparound services and I've found out this, this and that. I've also put in the formal request for an IEP so we don't lose any more time. Let's see how it goes. We're trying to make it easier on school staff as well as easier on difficult child. He has barriers between himself and education, barriers which his classmates don't have. It is discriminatory to not do anything about this, the soonr we put something in place then the sooner we teach him how to overcome these problems in his own unique way. we deal with the problems now while tey're smaller, because later on will be much more difficult."</p><p></p><p>See how it goes. But a fait accompli - she can't talk you out of that. And really, given her previously demonstrated level of knowledge - is she such an authority that you would allow her views to dictate your actions?</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 325441, member: 1991"] Audrey, you have already demonstrated that you can handle this sort of situation with tact, sensitivity and an eye for positive outcomes for everybody. You've got good instincts for your own feelings too. Hang on to those. I would thank this woman for hr input, the wraparound services are a good idea and a multi-pronged approach is a very good thing to do. But this will not in any way reduce the need for the school to follow through too, or your efforts will be wasged. The multidiscpliniary approach is the way to go. And in Australia (and I thought in the US) Special Education gfunding to cover the IEP costs comes from the Federal Government, not out of the school's pocket. If the child is removed from the school and there is still half a year of funding left to spend, then the school has to pay it back. Otherwise, the costs are covered. You will find that the people who are responsible for making the decisions that will cost money (even if it's not their money) sometimes get better 'kudos' for not having to spend money. For example, when we applied for funding support the woman they sent out to help assess, did her utmost to downgrade his perceived needs so she could justify a lower amount. It was is if coming in cheaper for the year got her brownie points at senior level. Certainly she made some very bad decisions for difficult child 3. But if you think there is a need, you have to make the case and push the paperwork through. Educaiton staff can do a great deal, but in certain areas their hands are tied. For example they can see a child who they are sure would benefit form an IEP, but technicall are not permitted to approach the parents and suggest this. I've had a teacher or two over the years come to me quietly and say, "There is a parent whose child needs help, the parent applied but the officials denied the claim. We know this often happens and are sure it will get approved on appeal, but this mother is scared to appeal because she feels she isn't skilled enough to write the letter. We're not allowed to help her. Can oyu help her? And don't tell the officials I spoke to you about this, it has to be coming from the parent only, not from any teacher." So we got together, wrote the letter and the child got his funding back. The mother was amazed and delighted - a bit of a difficult child hrself, she was taught to agree with her "betters". which included self-proclaimed educational experts who told her when her son dind't need funding any more despite hr own instincts screaming otherwise. After all, they are the educated ones, they have the positions in authority, she's only a mum, what would she know? It's not a perfect system by any means. and even the best school will have problems. If you send in the formal request for an IEP, make sure there is a paer trail (you could email it, then your email out box will have acopy of what you sent and when). Then next time you talk to this 'fool' (we're not using the word idiot, because we're better than her) you simply say, "I thought about what you said. I've begun to organsie the wraparound services and I've found out this, this and that. I've also put in the formal request for an IEP so we don't lose any more time. Let's see how it goes. We're trying to make it easier on school staff as well as easier on difficult child. He has barriers between himself and education, barriers which his classmates don't have. It is discriminatory to not do anything about this, the soonr we put something in place then the sooner we teach him how to overcome these problems in his own unique way. we deal with the problems now while tey're smaller, because later on will be much more difficult." See how it goes. But a fait accompli - she can't talk you out of that. And really, given her previously demonstrated level of knowledge - is she such an authority that you would allow her views to dictate your actions? Marg [/QUOTE]
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