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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 282897" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>Star</p><p> </p><p>I can honestly say that I'd have answered the same way you did on the rape case. The man had been accused, not convicted. There is a <strong>huge</strong> difference.</p><p> </p><p>I'm not sure on the shaken baby cases. It would depend on the evidence presented. I'm assuming they were convicted?? </p><p> </p><p>Unfortunately, over past years we've grown used to the press trying and convicting someone looooong before they ever get into a courtroom. People watching it believe everything they're hearing is the bona fide all revealing truth, when it isn't. The press don't have all the facts of these sorts of cases. They don't get all the grimy details that juries listen to. 99 percent of what they rave on and on about in their news reports is speculation, but they make it sound factual........because it's based on a few truths.</p><p> </p><p>Too many people have forgotten "innocent until <strong><em>proven</em></strong> guilty". It was worded that way on purpose.</p><p> </p><p>Although I don't like the man, I gave OJ the benefit of the doubt up until the guilty verdict was rendered. And honestly, I'm still amazed they got a guilty verdict with all the mess ups of the LA police dept.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/felttip/ashamed.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":ashamed:" title="ashamed :ashamed:" data-shortname=":ashamed:" /></p><p> </p><p>My brother's first wife left 6 kids under the age of 4 in a burning apartment. Three were hers, 3 were her sisters. Two of those kids were less than a week old. If not for people in a downstairs bar having seen her with the kids........they'd have burned to death.</p><p> </p><p>I was 18 when my brother suddenly found himself in custody of his 2 little girls by the ex wife.</p><p> </p><p>People thought it odd I was neither shocked, nor hated the girl. She had her first child by my brother at 14, shot gun wedding, 2nd child by 15, 3rd at 17 by another guy because my brother divorced her due to neglecting the kids. But didn't get custody.</p><p> </p><p>The ex-wife, all of 17 at the time of the fire, had come from a very abusive homelife, basically forced into marriage to my brother, was extremely immature, ignorant (not kidding).......and I've no doubt overwhelmed.</p><p> </p><p>She served a very looooooong sentence. And karma got her with uterine cancer in prison which resulted in a hysterectomy.</p><p> </p><p>That last big case with the missing 2 yr old girl..........the press was crucifying the Mom long before they had anything to go on. But I swear everytime I saw footage of the girl I saw someone who was severely mentally ill. Doesn't change what happened or make it excusable. </p><p> </p><p>Too many people have forgotten that a person is innocent until proven guilty. That while a trial is going on the only ones who know <strong>all </strong>the facts of the case are those who are directly involved with it.</p><p> </p><p>in my opinion doesn't sound like the first case you mentioned that the dad gave a darn what he did and that it was done purposefully. If that is the case, then he deserves the death penalty.</p><p> </p><p>But we had a case here where a very young mom fell asleep in the chair while nursing her newborn. Newborn got wedged between Mom and the chair in such a way that it smothered. A horrific tragedy. No facts were ever found to disprove the mother's story. Mother was a hysterical mess as I recall. But I swear everyone I ran across only had the most vicious things to say.</p><p> </p><p>Instead I heard things like She cries too much it has to be fake, Oh, she just sat staring off into space when they questioned her.....Excuse me? Have you ever lost a child, let alone a newborn and believed it to be your fault? Yeah, sorry. I'd be a mental basket case myself. And was with Travis.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /> And it <strong>wasn't</strong> my fault.</p><p> </p><p>With the outragious sensationalism in the press these days........I wait to draw my conclusions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 282897, member: 84"] Star I can honestly say that I'd have answered the same way you did on the rape case. The man had been accused, not convicted. There is a [B]huge[/B] difference. I'm not sure on the shaken baby cases. It would depend on the evidence presented. I'm assuming they were convicted?? Unfortunately, over past years we've grown used to the press trying and convicting someone looooong before they ever get into a courtroom. People watching it believe everything they're hearing is the bona fide all revealing truth, when it isn't. The press don't have all the facts of these sorts of cases. They don't get all the grimy details that juries listen to. 99 percent of what they rave on and on about in their news reports is speculation, but they make it sound factual........because it's based on a few truths. Too many people have forgotten "innocent until [B][I]proven[/I][/B] guilty". It was worded that way on purpose. Although I don't like the man, I gave OJ the benefit of the doubt up until the guilty verdict was rendered. And honestly, I'm still amazed they got a guilty verdict with all the mess ups of the LA police dept.:ashamed: My brother's first wife left 6 kids under the age of 4 in a burning apartment. Three were hers, 3 were her sisters. Two of those kids were less than a week old. If not for people in a downstairs bar having seen her with the kids........they'd have burned to death. I was 18 when my brother suddenly found himself in custody of his 2 little girls by the ex wife. People thought it odd I was neither shocked, nor hated the girl. She had her first child by my brother at 14, shot gun wedding, 2nd child by 15, 3rd at 17 by another guy because my brother divorced her due to neglecting the kids. But didn't get custody. The ex-wife, all of 17 at the time of the fire, had come from a very abusive homelife, basically forced into marriage to my brother, was extremely immature, ignorant (not kidding).......and I've no doubt overwhelmed. She served a very looooooong sentence. And karma got her with uterine cancer in prison which resulted in a hysterectomy. That last big case with the missing 2 yr old girl..........the press was crucifying the Mom long before they had anything to go on. But I swear everytime I saw footage of the girl I saw someone who was severely mentally ill. Doesn't change what happened or make it excusable. Too many people have forgotten that a person is innocent until proven guilty. That while a trial is going on the only ones who know [B]all [/B]the facts of the case are those who are directly involved with it. in my opinion doesn't sound like the first case you mentioned that the dad gave a darn what he did and that it was done purposefully. If that is the case, then he deserves the death penalty. But we had a case here where a very young mom fell asleep in the chair while nursing her newborn. Newborn got wedged between Mom and the chair in such a way that it smothered. A horrific tragedy. No facts were ever found to disprove the mother's story. Mother was a hysterical mess as I recall. But I swear everyone I ran across only had the most vicious things to say. Instead I heard things like She cries too much it has to be fake, Oh, she just sat staring off into space when they questioned her.....Excuse me? Have you ever lost a child, let alone a newborn and believed it to be your fault? Yeah, sorry. I'd be a mental basket case myself. And was with Travis.:angry: And it [B]wasn't[/B] my fault. With the outragious sensationalism in the press these days........I wait to draw my conclusions. [/QUOTE]
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