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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 530411" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>Oh man, you know, I am probably the worst person (or maybe one of the best) to chime in because I have felt the wrath of an unjust system for so long now and am in a place of heightened sensitivity to it all. What are we trying to teach our kids after all? Makes you wish there were video cameras in the lunch room so they could see the truth. As soon as something like that would start, my son would be quickly up and doing it louder and longer than everyone else and would likely be blamed then and punished. I highly doubt a teacher actually saw every single child and knows which one actually started it. Your child may have stood out though. </p><p></p><p>I assume you dont think your child is an angel or never does things wrong, but it seems maybe he is being treated more harshly or frequently than others. If he is a kid who is more outgoing or louder he may be noticed more. Kids who are more sneaky can be far worse in behaviors but they get away with it. </p><p></p><p>He is in elementary school, it is not like he wont get into college over this. I have had so many issues I will tell you what I have had to do. Some of them I have had to just say my piece, document everything and then let it go and move on. (not saying you have to do this just what I have done at times depending on the situation). </p><p></p><p>I would press the issue on the right to privacy, no one is to talk about a student's private affairs including punishments. It does not sound like your child is a special needs child or anything...does he have any kind of issue (adhd or anything?) that would add protections to his cause? Is he a minority? (another issue that many of us face here...our kids stand out even more with disabilities and being children of color) This principal needs to respect children more. He did not investigate? He just taught your child and all of the kids who told what they saw that authority can't be trusted. </p><p></p><p>My girlfriend/former co-worker has a son with bipolar. He was jumped in his high school and he went crazy on them fighting back. Charges were pressed against only him saying he attacked these kids who were of another ethnic minority and it was put in the news as a hate crime. The reason he was charged? A teacher SWORE she saw the whole thing. After lots of money, attorneys and finally going to trial turns out the district with held information... a VIDEO TAPE. The whole thing showed that they had been hiding behind lockers and jumped him. The teacher came out AFTER that and so was telling her truth but missed what started it all. Do you think anyone printed a retraction or cleared his or the families name? He is still considered a racist. It was so awful. Your situation is a much less serious matter but the attitude could lead to a similar problem. </p><p></p><p>OK... way off subject and you can just say it is not an issue if it is not. Some kids who have challenges (adhd, high funcitoning autism, emotional-behavioral diagnosis's, or just are spirited types of kids.....etc) who do not have it affect their school work so are not in Special Education. end up being mislabeled as behavior problems, rude, disrespectful, have parents who are clueless, etc. It mostly seems like these sudden issues the principal is bringing up are CYA statements to justify their actions, but is there any chance that he does struggle in some ways? </p><p></p><p>Is this the right school for him? Are there any charter schools around that you would like for him? Maybe he needs a fresh start?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I am really sorry this is happening and I know how all consuming it can feel to fight things like this. It does help me to post here and gain some perspective. To vent with people who get it and also who get that sometimes you just can't educate some of these administrators who are so ignorant. I hope you get what you are seeking from them, and that your son can just continue to learn and grow in a safer environment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 530411, member: 12886"] Oh man, you know, I am probably the worst person (or maybe one of the best) to chime in because I have felt the wrath of an unjust system for so long now and am in a place of heightened sensitivity to it all. What are we trying to teach our kids after all? Makes you wish there were video cameras in the lunch room so they could see the truth. As soon as something like that would start, my son would be quickly up and doing it louder and longer than everyone else and would likely be blamed then and punished. I highly doubt a teacher actually saw every single child and knows which one actually started it. Your child may have stood out though. I assume you dont think your child is an angel or never does things wrong, but it seems maybe he is being treated more harshly or frequently than others. If he is a kid who is more outgoing or louder he may be noticed more. Kids who are more sneaky can be far worse in behaviors but they get away with it. He is in elementary school, it is not like he wont get into college over this. I have had so many issues I will tell you what I have had to do. Some of them I have had to just say my piece, document everything and then let it go and move on. (not saying you have to do this just what I have done at times depending on the situation). I would press the issue on the right to privacy, no one is to talk about a student's private affairs including punishments. It does not sound like your child is a special needs child or anything...does he have any kind of issue (adhd or anything?) that would add protections to his cause? Is he a minority? (another issue that many of us face here...our kids stand out even more with disabilities and being children of color) This principal needs to respect children more. He did not investigate? He just taught your child and all of the kids who told what they saw that authority can't be trusted. My girlfriend/former co-worker has a son with bipolar. He was jumped in his high school and he went crazy on them fighting back. Charges were pressed against only him saying he attacked these kids who were of another ethnic minority and it was put in the news as a hate crime. The reason he was charged? A teacher SWORE she saw the whole thing. After lots of money, attorneys and finally going to trial turns out the district with held information... a VIDEO TAPE. The whole thing showed that they had been hiding behind lockers and jumped him. The teacher came out AFTER that and so was telling her truth but missed what started it all. Do you think anyone printed a retraction or cleared his or the families name? He is still considered a racist. It was so awful. Your situation is a much less serious matter but the attitude could lead to a similar problem. OK... way off subject and you can just say it is not an issue if it is not. Some kids who have challenges (adhd, high funcitoning autism, emotional-behavioral diagnosis's, or just are spirited types of kids.....etc) who do not have it affect their school work so are not in Special Education. end up being mislabeled as behavior problems, rude, disrespectful, have parents who are clueless, etc. It mostly seems like these sudden issues the principal is bringing up are CYA statements to justify their actions, but is there any chance that he does struggle in some ways? Is this the right school for him? Are there any charter schools around that you would like for him? Maybe he needs a fresh start? Anyway, I am really sorry this is happening and I know how all consuming it can feel to fight things like this. It does help me to post here and gain some perspective. To vent with people who get it and also who get that sometimes you just can't educate some of these administrators who are so ignorant. I hope you get what you are seeking from them, and that your son can just continue to learn and grow in a safer environment. [/QUOTE]
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