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<blockquote data-quote="InsaneCdn" data-source="post: 435522" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>This happens EVERY year... start of school year, new teacher(s). Teacher is always pleasant, trying to come across as helpful, asking all the right questions. difficult child senses <u>immediately</u> that its all a show - that the teacher is "one of those" who's gonna have it "in for him" in 2 weeks or less... so, difficult child goes on the offensive - work refusal, distracting others, every trick in the book to make the teacher look bad. Then, of course, the teacher blows up, but it all gets blamed on difficult child. The only part that IS his fault is that, when he senses these problems, he needs to TALK - to someone who can do something... a parent, a school resource teacher or counsellor or VP, or his therapist or family doctor or... SOMEONE. So that we can intervene BEFORE he has to make a total mess of the situation... </p><p> </p><p>BUT - he's right. The teacher believes that "kids do well if they want to", rather than "kids do well if they can"... so, the problem is assumed to be 100% attitude... and BAM! (this, it turns out, at least around here, is about 80% of the teachers... and we have NO control over who he gets assigned to)</p><p> </p><p>If he wasn't so perceptive, he'd be playing along like the others do, and wouldn't hit trouble for at least another 4 weeks (i.e. half-way into first term... parent-teacher interview night... no work to discuss???) which just delays the whole process anyway... but there would be fewer "burned bridges" to rebuild.</p><p> </p><p>If he knew what to do with the information he's taking in, he'd learn how to "play the game" to his own advantage - shut up in front of the teacher, but tell one of his "advocates" so that THEY can make a difference without HIM getting labelled or blamed... but he doesn't catch on to the "social niceties game".</p><p> </p><p>As far as the neanderthal-theory goes... I'd ignore theory for now. Find what works, THEN find an explanation for why it works. K2 got to kindergarten, and was so completely obviously majorly ADD - at least, we saw it, the teachers didn't! But they don't diagnosis 5 year olds... at least, not usually. We got our diagnosis by 5.5 yrs old... partly because it runs in the family, (and 2 of us had diagnosis and medications already), and partly because we were having success with non-medical medications... </p><p> </p><p>Unmedicated ADHD kids appear to be at higher risk of smoking, drinking, and drugs... some people blame this on their "risk-taking" tendencies... but other research indicates that perhaps because they need the "stimulants" that the medications would provide. Specifically, the top 5 self-medicating substances for ADHD people are: caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, marjajuana, and cocaine - all 5, stimulants, of which only ONE happens to be both socially acceptable and legal. We used strong black tea (with a bit of honey to make it taste better) - and saw a major change in her attentiveness at school... If you want to know whether he might respond to stimulant medication, you might think about (real, not herbal) tea or coffee or cola... but caffeine has long-term effects, too (including potentally stunting growth)... so, its not wise to use this as the long-term solution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsaneCdn, post: 435522, member: 11791"] This happens EVERY year... start of school year, new teacher(s). Teacher is always pleasant, trying to come across as helpful, asking all the right questions. difficult child senses [U]immediately[/U] that its all a show - that the teacher is "one of those" who's gonna have it "in for him" in 2 weeks or less... so, difficult child goes on the offensive - work refusal, distracting others, every trick in the book to make the teacher look bad. Then, of course, the teacher blows up, but it all gets blamed on difficult child. The only part that IS his fault is that, when he senses these problems, he needs to TALK - to someone who can do something... a parent, a school resource teacher or counsellor or VP, or his therapist or family doctor or... SOMEONE. So that we can intervene BEFORE he has to make a total mess of the situation... BUT - he's right. The teacher believes that "kids do well if they want to", rather than "kids do well if they can"... so, the problem is assumed to be 100% attitude... and BAM! (this, it turns out, at least around here, is about 80% of the teachers... and we have NO control over who he gets assigned to) If he wasn't so perceptive, he'd be playing along like the others do, and wouldn't hit trouble for at least another 4 weeks (i.e. half-way into first term... parent-teacher interview night... no work to discuss???) which just delays the whole process anyway... but there would be fewer "burned bridges" to rebuild. If he knew what to do with the information he's taking in, he'd learn how to "play the game" to his own advantage - shut up in front of the teacher, but tell one of his "advocates" so that THEY can make a difference without HIM getting labelled or blamed... but he doesn't catch on to the "social niceties game". As far as the neanderthal-theory goes... I'd ignore theory for now. Find what works, THEN find an explanation for why it works. K2 got to kindergarten, and was so completely obviously majorly ADD - at least, we saw it, the teachers didn't! But they don't diagnosis 5 year olds... at least, not usually. We got our diagnosis by 5.5 yrs old... partly because it runs in the family, (and 2 of us had diagnosis and medications already), and partly because we were having success with non-medical medications... Unmedicated ADHD kids appear to be at higher risk of smoking, drinking, and drugs... some people blame this on their "risk-taking" tendencies... but other research indicates that perhaps because they need the "stimulants" that the medications would provide. Specifically, the top 5 self-medicating substances for ADHD people are: caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, marjajuana, and cocaine - all 5, stimulants, of which only ONE happens to be both socially acceptable and legal. We used strong black tea (with a bit of honey to make it taste better) - and saw a major change in her attentiveness at school... If you want to know whether he might respond to stimulant medication, you might think about (real, not herbal) tea or coffee or cola... but caffeine has long-term effects, too (including potentally stunting growth)... so, its not wise to use this as the long-term solution. [/QUOTE]
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