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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 38160" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Thanks, MWM. As soon as I saw that you had replied, I was comfortable, feeling you would say what I would on this.</p><p></p><p>Basically, especially where there has been a history of parents resisting assessment and 'labels', it increases the chance that what labels there are, are inaccurate. So much more could have been found if he's been assessed earlier, before that highly intelligent brain adapted and learned to hide his disorder (whatever it is) as much as he could manage. It's normal for people to do this, he's not being deliberately deceptive beyond an innate desire to try to fit in.</p><p></p><p>They're worried about what a label will do to their child - this is pure paranoia and totally pointless. Do you think that people don't know? A class teacher will be having trouble with a child and be wondering what it could be, but THEY can't drag him off to a specialist. The school counsellor may look in, but schools getting involved independent of the parents - they don't get far.</p><p></p><p>It's not generally done, that parents will have a child assessed when that child is completely 'normal', with no signs or symptoms. We don't spend money for complex assessments when the child is functioning perfectly well and there is no apparent reason to.</p><p>If we have concerns about our children, it is because we see something that worries us, or someone else sees something that concerns them. So if the parents noticed odd things, then chances are, so have others. Hey, you've seen it and he's not your child.</p><p></p><p>it is far better to have an appropriate label from a qualified specialist, than no official label but a general gossipy "steer clear of that kid, he's strange."</p><p>Which is going to be more potentially damaging for a career path?</p><p></p><p>These days a label of Asperger's or ADHD is no barrier to getting a job - in fact, it can be an advantage. the boss knows that such a person is highly intelligent, very interested in what he chooses to do and likely to be able to concentrate on his preferred area of interest to a greater level than most. Aspies tend to be scrupulously law-abiding and loyal. Here, a label is an advantage.</p><p>Also, for a lot of workplaces, there can be government assistance to the employer if you hire someone with a learning difficulty (at least there is in Australia).</p><p></p><p>Forget about paranoia over labels. Concentrate on how the child will best access the good education he needs to get here in the first place. And access is the key - a kid who gets no support when they need it, or gets suspended for behaviour they can't control, is missing out on education. Without that, a future on welfare looks much more likely.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 38160, member: 1991"] Thanks, MWM. As soon as I saw that you had replied, I was comfortable, feeling you would say what I would on this. Basically, especially where there has been a history of parents resisting assessment and 'labels', it increases the chance that what labels there are, are inaccurate. So much more could have been found if he's been assessed earlier, before that highly intelligent brain adapted and learned to hide his disorder (whatever it is) as much as he could manage. It's normal for people to do this, he's not being deliberately deceptive beyond an innate desire to try to fit in. They're worried about what a label will do to their child - this is pure paranoia and totally pointless. Do you think that people don't know? A class teacher will be having trouble with a child and be wondering what it could be, but THEY can't drag him off to a specialist. The school counsellor may look in, but schools getting involved independent of the parents - they don't get far. It's not generally done, that parents will have a child assessed when that child is completely 'normal', with no signs or symptoms. We don't spend money for complex assessments when the child is functioning perfectly well and there is no apparent reason to. If we have concerns about our children, it is because we see something that worries us, or someone else sees something that concerns them. So if the parents noticed odd things, then chances are, so have others. Hey, you've seen it and he's not your child. it is far better to have an appropriate label from a qualified specialist, than no official label but a general gossipy "steer clear of that kid, he's strange." Which is going to be more potentially damaging for a career path? These days a label of Asperger's or ADHD is no barrier to getting a job - in fact, it can be an advantage. the boss knows that such a person is highly intelligent, very interested in what he chooses to do and likely to be able to concentrate on his preferred area of interest to a greater level than most. Aspies tend to be scrupulously law-abiding and loyal. Here, a label is an advantage. Also, for a lot of workplaces, there can be government assistance to the employer if you hire someone with a learning difficulty (at least there is in Australia). Forget about paranoia over labels. Concentrate on how the child will best access the good education he needs to get here in the first place. And access is the key - a kid who gets no support when they need it, or gets suspended for behaviour they can't control, is missing out on education. Without that, a future on welfare looks much more likely. Marg [/QUOTE]
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