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<blockquote data-quote="GoingNorth" data-source="post: 681657" data-attributes="member: 1963"><p>IC, I don't know that romantic love was ever there. A young rabbi needs a wife. It's almost impossible for a single, Orthodox rabbi to find employment as there are many duties the wife, the Rebbetsin, has to fulfill.</p><p></p><p>Children? Duty to their god. But they stood together because of the Ketubah, the oath to each other that they'd sworn before their god.</p><p></p><p>My grandfather performed Stu's and my marriage, after a bloody row over the exact wording of the Ketubah, which was finally settled when Stu told my grandfather that either it would be THIS way, or the wedding wasn't happening.</p><p></p><p>I can't read the ketubah as I'm illiterate in both Hebrew and Yiddish, but Stu was literate in liturgical Hebrew, read the contract as originally written, and blew a gasket.</p><p></p><p>I come from a culture where romantic love really isn't that common. Marriages were contracts, e.g. business arrangements, or worse, breeding arrangemnts.</p><p></p><p>It's only in the past 75 years or so that romance started to play a role in marriage.</p><p></p><p>One strikingly "modern" thing is domestic abuse was always a way to end a marriage under Jewish law. The other two were barrenness or adultery.</p><p></p><p>The earlier solution to barrenness was for the husband to take another wife or concubine. And the Talmud is very clear on the 2nd wife's or concubine's subservient position re; the first wife.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I wish they still did it the old way. I'm barren and was quite young when I found out. Coulda sure used an extra set of hands around the place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GoingNorth, post: 681657, member: 1963"] IC, I don't know that romantic love was ever there. A young rabbi needs a wife. It's almost impossible for a single, Orthodox rabbi to find employment as there are many duties the wife, the Rebbetsin, has to fulfill. Children? Duty to their god. But they stood together because of the Ketubah, the oath to each other that they'd sworn before their god. My grandfather performed Stu's and my marriage, after a bloody row over the exact wording of the Ketubah, which was finally settled when Stu told my grandfather that either it would be THIS way, or the wedding wasn't happening. I can't read the ketubah as I'm illiterate in both Hebrew and Yiddish, but Stu was literate in liturgical Hebrew, read the contract as originally written, and blew a gasket. I come from a culture where romantic love really isn't that common. Marriages were contracts, e.g. business arrangements, or worse, breeding arrangemnts. It's only in the past 75 years or so that romance started to play a role in marriage. One strikingly "modern" thing is domestic abuse was always a way to end a marriage under Jewish law. The other two were barrenness or adultery. The earlier solution to barrenness was for the husband to take another wife or concubine. And the Talmud is very clear on the 2nd wife's or concubine's subservient position re; the first wife. Personally, I wish they still did it the old way. I'm barren and was quite young when I found out. Coulda sure used an extra set of hands around the place. [/QUOTE]
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