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<blockquote data-quote="Farmwife" data-source="post: 380559" data-attributes="member: 8617"><p>From personal experience and disaster I suspect that this is a very manic/bi polar situation. Though I was not a minor at the time she is doing almost an exact copy of what I did when I was at my worst. It very likely can just be a mental illness thing and yes it is hard to deal with.</p><p> </p><p>I stopped eating regular meals and got by on less sleep at first. Got down to like a can of corn a day (I craved it, *shrug*) about 4 hours sleep and was in perpetual motion for my activity level. That was just the start... it lasted a month or two. I started to dislike the feeling and taste of food in my mouth, the feeling of it in my body digesting. It got to the point where nothing looked appealing. I would take a taste and think blech ewww NOPE. I also stopped sleeping at all. This lasted a week or so. In that time I had what I like to call fission. Although I should have collapsed I felt "better and better" and more energized than ever, it felt "electric". (I would also have uncontrollable cold shivering spells out of nowhere?!?!? I called it vibrating, I guess it was part of my electric "theme")</p><p> </p><p>In that time I developed some of the most bizarre delusions that I am too emberrassed to even describe them now. PM me if you are curious just not something for the public web... She can actually think and believe there is an issue with her throat. That would have been small time for the things I created in my mind and whole heartedly believed as if it were reality.</p><p> </p><p>Though I am only bi polar the mania after that week of no food or sleep turned to hallucinations both visual, auditory and strange ideas I felt were visions and messages. At the end of the week I "escaped" the care of my family member who had been nervously watching me but could not stay awake any longer. I was acting BIZARRE in public, was picked up by police and transported by ambulance to an acute psychiatric hospital where they decided I had some sort of "psychoeffective break" or something along that line of a breakdown. I flew the coop in the worst possible way. Took me 6 months to be able to cope on a reasonable level. I was only in the hospital a month and a half but suspect it should have been a month longer because crippling anxiety started after discharge and losing my safety net. The anxiety took years to resolve.</p><p> </p><p>It took the right medications to get me eating again. I HAD to stabilize my bi polar BEFORE I would eat. As soon as they addressed the mania I suddenly started eating a little at first and then voraciously. I wonder if the remeron is not effective because the bi polar is perhaps controlling the appetite.</p><p> </p><p>I was very ill for a long time. Had a case worker assigned to me. I was labeled as severly mentally ill along with all the other droolers and checker peice eaters. I was GONE! Have faith though. I am not "cured" but I have since moved on, gotten stable, have not had medications for 7 years. I have had great employment before becoming a "farmwife". I am raising healthy kids and no one would ever know just how looney tunes I once was unless I told them. I still have some of those bizarre ideas in the back of my mind. They never go away 100%. I just learn to recognize them for what they are, ignore them and move on. The delusions still have a small sense of reality but I choose to encapsulate them because they only cause me harm. I am better but will always have remnants of that break.</p><p> </p><p>Could you have her placed in an acute psychiatric ward? They can start to manage the mania as well as observe the eating. Then THEY can step her care up a notch and make the calls rather than you having to juggle it. You would be amazed what "secret" resources hospitals and managed care agencies have up their sleeves, how many people they have to call once the ball is rolling. Only trouble is you have to "join the club" to get your foot in the door. As a minor I would suspect they psychiatric dept. would take her care very seriously. Is there a childrens hospital in your area?</p><p> </p><p>Oh yeah, trips to the hospital appealed to me as well, I also wanted to run away. Sometimes the issues feel so overwhelming that a stay at a hospital feels both safe and like a mental vacation. It's hard to describe but once I got over the worry of being locked up I never wanted to leave. At the hospital I didn't have to be responsible for my problems or solutions. Everyone protected me. Somewhere in all of the delusion I was scared and wanted help. If she is afraid of dying from food that fear is very real to her. Knowing someone will save her is probably a relief.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Farmwife, post: 380559, member: 8617"] From personal experience and disaster I suspect that this is a very manic/bi polar situation. Though I was not a minor at the time she is doing almost an exact copy of what I did when I was at my worst. It very likely can just be a mental illness thing and yes it is hard to deal with. I stopped eating regular meals and got by on less sleep at first. Got down to like a can of corn a day (I craved it, *shrug*) about 4 hours sleep and was in perpetual motion for my activity level. That was just the start... it lasted a month or two. I started to dislike the feeling and taste of food in my mouth, the feeling of it in my body digesting. It got to the point where nothing looked appealing. I would take a taste and think blech ewww NOPE. I also stopped sleeping at all. This lasted a week or so. In that time I had what I like to call fission. Although I should have collapsed I felt "better and better" and more energized than ever, it felt "electric". (I would also have uncontrollable cold shivering spells out of nowhere?!?!? I called it vibrating, I guess it was part of my electric "theme") In that time I developed some of the most bizarre delusions that I am too emberrassed to even describe them now. PM me if you are curious just not something for the public web... She can actually think and believe there is an issue with her throat. That would have been small time for the things I created in my mind and whole heartedly believed as if it were reality. Though I am only bi polar the mania after that week of no food or sleep turned to hallucinations both visual, auditory and strange ideas I felt were visions and messages. At the end of the week I "escaped" the care of my family member who had been nervously watching me but could not stay awake any longer. I was acting BIZARRE in public, was picked up by police and transported by ambulance to an acute psychiatric hospital where they decided I had some sort of "psychoeffective break" or something along that line of a breakdown. I flew the coop in the worst possible way. Took me 6 months to be able to cope on a reasonable level. I was only in the hospital a month and a half but suspect it should have been a month longer because crippling anxiety started after discharge and losing my safety net. The anxiety took years to resolve. It took the right medications to get me eating again. I HAD to stabilize my bi polar BEFORE I would eat. As soon as they addressed the mania I suddenly started eating a little at first and then voraciously. I wonder if the remeron is not effective because the bi polar is perhaps controlling the appetite. I was very ill for a long time. Had a case worker assigned to me. I was labeled as severly mentally ill along with all the other droolers and checker peice eaters. I was GONE! Have faith though. I am not "cured" but I have since moved on, gotten stable, have not had medications for 7 years. I have had great employment before becoming a "farmwife". I am raising healthy kids and no one would ever know just how looney tunes I once was unless I told them. I still have some of those bizarre ideas in the back of my mind. They never go away 100%. I just learn to recognize them for what they are, ignore them and move on. The delusions still have a small sense of reality but I choose to encapsulate them because they only cause me harm. I am better but will always have remnants of that break. Could you have her placed in an acute psychiatric ward? They can start to manage the mania as well as observe the eating. Then THEY can step her care up a notch and make the calls rather than you having to juggle it. You would be amazed what "secret" resources hospitals and managed care agencies have up their sleeves, how many people they have to call once the ball is rolling. Only trouble is you have to "join the club" to get your foot in the door. As a minor I would suspect they psychiatric dept. would take her care very seriously. Is there a childrens hospital in your area? Oh yeah, trips to the hospital appealed to me as well, I also wanted to run away. Sometimes the issues feel so overwhelming that a stay at a hospital feels both safe and like a mental vacation. It's hard to describe but once I got over the worry of being locked up I never wanted to leave. At the hospital I didn't have to be responsible for my problems or solutions. Everyone protected me. Somewhere in all of the delusion I was scared and wanted help. If she is afraid of dying from food that fear is very real to her. Knowing someone will save her is probably a relief. [/QUOTE]
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