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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 352577" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Testing is not always reliable. There are LOTS of stories of kids who were thought to be extremely low IQ who had some problem that interfered with the testing. There are also ways testing is done that can influence the results. The overall IQ is based on results from questions that cover a range of areas. Someone who is impaired in their ability to do math but is a whiz in language might have subset scores that are off the charts high in language areas and bottom of the chart in math areas. Their overall score might well be average. </p><p></p><p>I have found that the subset scores tell more than the overall. The spread, or difference between the subset scores is also telling. </p><p></p><p>Part of it depends on if your child wanted to do the testing. I have a cousin who decided it was nobody's business how smart she was. On a set of tests in high school (might have been the SAT's, knowing her) she got every single question wrong. On purpose. This was caught and they actually gave her a very high score because you must know which is right to know which is wrong. She also was forced to retake it and do it right.) My own son had one IQ test that came out to be about 55 or 60, Very low, esp for him. Previous scores were much much higher. A different doctor put him through a battery of tests and said that his NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) and ADHD and dysgraphia all contributed to that score. After he was medicated for the ADHD fairly successfully his scores skyrocketed. They went up again as we worked on the NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) and testing strategies. </p><p></p><p>I myself increased my SAT scores by about 20 points just by studying from a test guide and studying how to take test. This isn't and IQ test, but it is standardized and the same effect could have happened on an IQ test. Heck, my own brother ranked very very high on his ACT scores - the second time. The first time he was still a little drunk from the night before, did NOT want to take the test, and was very angry with my parents for making him get up to take the test. He came out with a score that implied he would lose a spelling test to a rutabaga. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/felttip/hangover.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hangover:" title="hangover :hangover:" data-shortname=":hangover:" /><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/slap.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":slap:" title="slap :slap:" data-shortname=":slap:" /></p><p></p><p>Also, what was the testing room like? Was it noisy and he works best in a quiet room? Does he need a little noise to think and it was a silent room? Was it too hot or cold? Was the tester wearing a perfume that bothered him or making noises or chewing gum or ......? All of those can influence his scores.</p><p></p><p>Did he truly UNDERSTAND the testing instructions and the questions? Can he read instructions and follow them or does he need someone to read them out loud to tell him what to do? This can be an issue.</p><p></p><p>I would ask for all subset scores, review how his day was going before the test (was he hungry, tired, bored, irritated, defiant, etc...) and ask them to explain why his previous tests did not show this. If you have real doubts, ask them to retest him or take him elsewhere to retake it.</p><p></p><p>I hope this helps and doesn't confuse you more. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 352577, member: 1233"] Testing is not always reliable. There are LOTS of stories of kids who were thought to be extremely low IQ who had some problem that interfered with the testing. There are also ways testing is done that can influence the results. The overall IQ is based on results from questions that cover a range of areas. Someone who is impaired in their ability to do math but is a whiz in language might have subset scores that are off the charts high in language areas and bottom of the chart in math areas. Their overall score might well be average. I have found that the subset scores tell more than the overall. The spread, or difference between the subset scores is also telling. Part of it depends on if your child wanted to do the testing. I have a cousin who decided it was nobody's business how smart she was. On a set of tests in high school (might have been the SAT's, knowing her) she got every single question wrong. On purpose. This was caught and they actually gave her a very high score because you must know which is right to know which is wrong. She also was forced to retake it and do it right.) My own son had one IQ test that came out to be about 55 or 60, Very low, esp for him. Previous scores were much much higher. A different doctor put him through a battery of tests and said that his NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) and ADHD and dysgraphia all contributed to that score. After he was medicated for the ADHD fairly successfully his scores skyrocketed. They went up again as we worked on the NonVerbal Learning Disorder (NVLD) and testing strategies. I myself increased my SAT scores by about 20 points just by studying from a test guide and studying how to take test. This isn't and IQ test, but it is standardized and the same effect could have happened on an IQ test. Heck, my own brother ranked very very high on his ACT scores - the second time. The first time he was still a little drunk from the night before, did NOT want to take the test, and was very angry with my parents for making him get up to take the test. He came out with a score that implied he would lose a spelling test to a rutabaga. :hangover::slap: Also, what was the testing room like? Was it noisy and he works best in a quiet room? Does he need a little noise to think and it was a silent room? Was it too hot or cold? Was the tester wearing a perfume that bothered him or making noises or chewing gum or ......? All of those can influence his scores. Did he truly UNDERSTAND the testing instructions and the questions? Can he read instructions and follow them or does he need someone to read them out loud to tell him what to do? This can be an issue. I would ask for all subset scores, review how his day was going before the test (was he hungry, tired, bored, irritated, defiant, etc...) and ask them to explain why his previous tests did not show this. If you have real doubts, ask them to retest him or take him elsewhere to retake it. I hope this helps and doesn't confuse you more. :winking: [/QUOTE]
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