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<blockquote data-quote="everywoman" data-source="post: 146058" data-attributes="member: 1436"><p>Totoro---</p><p>I have suffered all that that young man has suffered. My parents both abandoned me when I was quite young. I was raised by my grandparents. I never would have thought to hurt them. I hurt myself which hurt them emotionally, but never in my mind did I think of shooting them.</p><p></p><p> My parents both suffered from undx mental illness. Their illnesses does not excuse what they did. (And they were only 15 and 17 when I was born---that's not an excuse either!)</p><p></p><p>I have raised a child who is both mentally ill and a substance abuser. I have run the gamut with his medication rollercoaster. But, even unstable, he knows right from wrong. He has been violent. He has committed criminal acts. His illness does not excuse him from his consequences. And I have had to let him face those consequences. He has been in jail. He has been in pysch hospitals. Neither made any difference except to keep him from commiting other crimes.</p><p></p><p>My husbands family is full of mental illness. His 1st cousin is now in jail because he allowed his mother to starve to death while he was out using all her money to buy drugs. Is he mentally unstable---yes. Is he responsible? Yes. </p><p></p><p>If this child had shot up a school or another child, would you feel the same way? I have tried to teach my son that his illness is not an excuse because I truely believe after about age 9, you know right from wrong. You know it is wrong to pick up a gun and shoot someone. </p><p></p><p>I do feel compassion for this young man. I think what he lived through was horrible. But so is what he did! Forty years is too long...but what is the right punishment?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="everywoman, post: 146058, member: 1436"] Totoro--- I have suffered all that that young man has suffered. My parents both abandoned me when I was quite young. I was raised by my grandparents. I never would have thought to hurt them. I hurt myself which hurt them emotionally, but never in my mind did I think of shooting them. My parents both suffered from undx mental illness. Their illnesses does not excuse what they did. (And they were only 15 and 17 when I was born---that's not an excuse either!) I have raised a child who is both mentally ill and a substance abuser. I have run the gamut with his medication rollercoaster. But, even unstable, he knows right from wrong. He has been violent. He has committed criminal acts. His illness does not excuse him from his consequences. And I have had to let him face those consequences. He has been in jail. He has been in pysch hospitals. Neither made any difference except to keep him from commiting other crimes. My husbands family is full of mental illness. His 1st cousin is now in jail because he allowed his mother to starve to death while he was out using all her money to buy drugs. Is he mentally unstable---yes. Is he responsible? Yes. If this child had shot up a school or another child, would you feel the same way? I have tried to teach my son that his illness is not an excuse because I truely believe after about age 9, you know right from wrong. You know it is wrong to pick up a gun and shoot someone. I do feel compassion for this young man. I think what he lived through was horrible. But so is what he did! Forty years is too long...but what is the right punishment? [/QUOTE]
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