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<blockquote data-quote="seriously" data-source="post: 457974" data-attributes="member: 11920"><p>Good advice from everyone. Listen to it. Follow it.</p><p></p><p>Do not give him anything he has not earned and then be stingy. There is nothing wrong with being stingy or making him earn privileges. That is the way the world works.</p><p></p><p>Do not engage in arguing. all you are doing is teaching him to argue. You are also teaching him that he will get those kinds of deals out in the real world. There is no employer on the face of the planet that will give him a paycheck when he hasn't done the job. There is no landlord anywhere that will re-paint or repair his place when he has punched holes in the walls and left it trashed.</p><p></p><p>He will never get those kinds of deals anywhere else and you are doing him a HUGE disfavor teaching him to think that way.</p><p></p><p>I had to learn that No is a complete sentence.</p><p></p><p>I had to learn to Inspect what I Expect and not to accept anything less than the correct and complete job.</p><p></p><p>I had to learn that whining is to be ignored. I figure everybody gets to whine a little when it comes to jobs they don't like such as cleaning. That doesn't mean I have to listen to it or react to it.</p><p></p><p>PLEASE do not give him a car, teach him to drive or let him drive. Please, please, please. He has made it very clear that he doesn't have the maturity required to operate a machine that can go up to 100 mph and can kill at 15 mph if you forget to check for a child behind you. </p><p></p><p>It isn't easy to undo the patterns of 17 years but you can do it. You must begin to do it today if you want to teach your son the skills he will need in the real world.</p><p></p><p>Best wishes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seriously, post: 457974, member: 11920"] Good advice from everyone. Listen to it. Follow it. Do not give him anything he has not earned and then be stingy. There is nothing wrong with being stingy or making him earn privileges. That is the way the world works. Do not engage in arguing. all you are doing is teaching him to argue. You are also teaching him that he will get those kinds of deals out in the real world. There is no employer on the face of the planet that will give him a paycheck when he hasn't done the job. There is no landlord anywhere that will re-paint or repair his place when he has punched holes in the walls and left it trashed. He will never get those kinds of deals anywhere else and you are doing him a HUGE disfavor teaching him to think that way. I had to learn that No is a complete sentence. I had to learn to Inspect what I Expect and not to accept anything less than the correct and complete job. I had to learn that whining is to be ignored. I figure everybody gets to whine a little when it comes to jobs they don't like such as cleaning. That doesn't mean I have to listen to it or react to it. PLEASE do not give him a car, teach him to drive or let him drive. Please, please, please. He has made it very clear that he doesn't have the maturity required to operate a machine that can go up to 100 mph and can kill at 15 mph if you forget to check for a child behind you. It isn't easy to undo the patterns of 17 years but you can do it. You must begin to do it today if you want to teach your son the skills he will need in the real world. Best wishes. [/QUOTE]
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